Brexit again...

[bookworm]

Bear in mind this is just one sector and there are hundreds of them that all need to be ironed out in very fine detail. It gives you an idea just how much detail the government will need to delve into with each individual sector.

 

Every industry has its own set of EU regulatory standards which will need to be regulated and aligned in order to continue trading with many overseas jurisdictions. It's all very well 'cutting red tape' but you can't export goods to other countries if you don't comply with their standards.

 

At my work we have to comply an agency called REACH. For Airbus there is a body called the European Aviation Safety Agency. Aviation safety is kind of a big deal. The UK will either have to remain part of this agency after leaving the EU or replace it with something that satisfies all the requirements and will continue to be aligned with it.

 

It's not just Airbus. If they did move, anyone in the UK who made parts for them would still have to comply with EU standards. All in all it's estimated that Airbus keeps 110,000 people in jobs in the UK.

 

There's a quote from their CEO last week in a news report that said "we have sought to highlight our concerns over the past 12 months, without success. [...] Far from Project Fear, this is a dawning reality" . It sounds like they are massively frustrated that nobody in government is listening to them.

 

Nothing so heartrending as a know all without an audience.

[philpvfc]

I fully understand their frustrations and the deal needs to be sorted out but sure it will plus I don't think for one minute that companies that have been EU approved will have to go through the process again once we leave the EU.

[Santa]

I fully understand their frustrations and the deal needs to be sorted out but sure it will plus I don't think for one minute that companies that have been EU approved will have to go through the process again once we leave the EU.

This is the fine detail that the government needs to trash out but is nowhere near doing.

[Hagrid]

Bear in mind this is just one sector and there are hundreds of them that all need to be ironed out in very fine detail. It gives you an idea just how much detail the government will need to delve into with each individual sector.

 

Every industry has its own set of EU regulatory standards which will need to be regulated and aligned in order to continue trading with many overseas jurisdictions. It's all very well 'cutting red tape' but you can't export goods to other countries if you don't comply with their standards.

 

At my work we have to comply an agency called REACH. For Airbus there is a body called the European Aviation Safety Agency. Aviation safety is kind of a big deal. The UK will either have to remain part of this agency after leaving the EU or replace it with something that satisfies all the requirements and will continue to be aligned with it.

 

It's not just Airbus. If they did move, anyone in the UK who made parts for them would still have to comply with EU standards. All in all it's estimated that Airbus keeps 110,000 people in jobs in the UK.

 

There's a quote from their CEO last week in a news report that said "we have sought to highlight our concerns over the past 12 months, without success. [...] Far from Project Fear, this is a dawning reality" . It sounds like they are massively frustrated that nobody in government is listening to them.

 

You read this post, and then read a post claiming that anything like this is 'remoan BS'.

 

Whatever side of the debate you are on, it is undeniable that arguments advocating a softer/no Brexit are often far better informed than the ones advocating we 'get on with it'. Whether that says anything about the respective debate is up to the reader to decide

[Valiant62]

Ah, aviation... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/28/brexit-britain-environment-heathrow-expansion

[philpvfc]

Expanding Heathrow was inevitable and the correct decision. We need to look how we can make planes more environmentally friendly, we are doing it with road and rail vehicles, I’m sure it must be possible to do it with air travel.

[philpvfc]

You read this post, and then read a post claiming that anything like this is 'remoan BS'.

 

Whatever side of the debate you are on, it is undeniable that arguments advocating a softer/no Brexit are often far better informed than the ones advocating we 'get on with it'. Whether that says anything about the respective debate is up to the reader to decide

 

Coming from someone who’s only comments on the subject of late is “Brexit is a mistake”.

 

You probably don’t have a clue what Santa was on about anyway. In short “Reach” is an EU certification that all EU members must have when controlling certain chemicals or dangerous substances. If you are a none EU country then this certification is not needed. Therefor with us leaving the EU then other certifications may not be needed.

 

Correct me if I am wrong Santa as you will have more knowledge on this.

[For Us All]

In your arrogant opinion maybe but it possibly shows why Airbus are so vocal against a trade agreement being sorted so soon.

 

They love the illegal payments from the EU protection racket too much.

[For Us All]

Aerospace is big and complicated. Development costs are great. Money has been diverted by both the US governments and those of individual EU countries for years. Boeing and Airbus have always complained about the amounts of public money the other receives.

 

Especially the illegal ones?😂

[For Us All]

This is the fine detail that the government needs to trash out but is nowhere near doing.

 

Just got to deal with acquis communautaire then?

Piece of ****.😂

[Jacko51]

I don’t understand. If Brexit is what the government wants and, according to some on here, so easy to achieve, why is it taking so ******* long?

[For Us All]

I don’t understand. If Brexit is what the government wants and, according to some on here, so easy to achieve, why is it taking so ******* long?

 

Easy,the Remainers are doing the EU's job for them.

[SourceOfTheTrent]

Easy,the Remainers are doing the EU's job for them.

Please! Seriously!!

[philpvfc]

I don’t understand. If Brexit is what the government wants and, according to some on here, so easy to achieve, why is it taking so ******* long?

 

But the Government didn’t and don’t really want it plus you have the EU being their normal awkward selves. As a leaver I never expected the transition to be easy so as a remainer why did you expect anything different?

[For Us All]

It's a syndicated PA article published in the Guardian, consisting mainly of quotes.

 

The only issue I have with Wetherspoons' position on this is that it's complete horse shít.

 

The EU doesn't imposes tariffs on the 93% of the world that isn't the EU. There are just 24 countries we trade with on WTO terms where the MFN tariff applies. All the rest are on preferential or free trade deals.

 

The EU tariff on wine from Australia is currently €0.099 per litre for wine 13% ABV. That works out at between 6.5p and 8p a bottle.

 

The EU is in the process of negotiating a free trade deal with Australia. It already has a free trade deal on Chilean wine.

 

The main amount of duty charged on wine is UK excise duty, not EU tariffs. HM government levies £2.16 plus VAT on a bottle of wine.

 

Emperor Palpatine is talking out of his árse.

 

I believe Mr.Wetherspoon has been instrumental in delivering today's £20billion deal between BAE Systems and Australia?

The Force Awakens.