Brexit again...

[philpvfc]

It isn't Phil - it's in off-topic

 

Sorry, must have been moved.

[philpvfc]

No they formed in 1993. Why couldnt they respect the democratic will of the people and accept that we had joined?

 

Well, in 20 years you can start a group to push for another referendum should you wish. That’s democracy.

[geosname]

Well, in 20 years you can start a group to push for another referendum should you wish. That’s democracy.

It could be started today if that's what people want to do... that's democracy.

I doubt it will succeed if the persuasive argument is based around people who voted out are thick, uneducated, poor, racist, monarchists, colonialists etc etc.

Any argument would need to unite not separate the voters.

[For Us All]

It could be started today if that's what people want to do... that's democracy.

I doubt it will succeed if the persuasive argument is based around people who voted out are thick, uneducated, poor, racist, monarchists, colonialists etc etc.

Any argument would need to unite not separate the voters.

 

Those kind of labels are the biggest recruiting tool the Leave side had.

[Jacko51]

Winston Churchill once said, "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." I'm increasingly coming to agree with him - on that if nowt else.

[Fosse69]

Winston Churchill once said, "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." I'm increasingly coming to agree with him - on that if nowt else.

Someone else said that "Democracy was wasted on the electorate." The voters have certainly got some poor representatives nowadays, probably more interested in their better paid part-time jobs. Not the voters` fault though, they can only choose from what`s put in front of them, and only in a few marginal seats does it make any difference.

[For Us All]

Someone else said that "Democracy was wasted on the electorate." The voters have certainly got some poor representatives nowadays, probably more interested in their better paid part-time jobs. Not the voters` fault though, they can only choose from what`s put in front of them, and only in a few marginal seats does it make any difference.

 

Perhaps we ought to start giving voters an IQ test before we allow them to vote.We would get rid of all the thickos then and allow all the clever people to vote Remain?

[SourceOfTheTrent]

Perhaps we ought to start giving voters an IQ test before we allow them to vote.We would get rid of all the thickos then and allow all the clever people to vote Remain?

You should be careful what you wish for, just like Brexit.

[Aussie Rules]

Sorry, must have been moved.

 

C'mon Phil, admit you had a senior moment - same as me

[Aussie Rules]

Winston Churchill once said, "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." I'm increasingly coming to agree with him - on that if nowt else.

 

Jean, an Hungarian born politics mentor once said to me that democracy will always be controlled by those with the executive power to control the political agenda.

[Fosse69]

Perhaps we ought to start giving voters an IQ test before we allow them to vote.We would get rid of all the thickos then and allow all the clever people to vote Remain?

Of course not, it took a long time for everyone to get a vote, originally restricted to the few property owners, rotten boroughs, etc. The biggest problem is the elected representatives, do they put the country first or their own personal interests, obey whips like sheep, etc

[For Us All]

You should be careful what you wish for, just like Brexit.

 

Indeed.

Have you heard the one about the man who asked the fairy to make him desirable and irresistible to women.

She turned him into a credit card.😁

 

Boom Boom.

[Fosse69]

Jean, an Hungarian born politics mentor once said to me that democracy will always be controlled by those with the executive power to control the political agenda.

Campaign spending and media power are also decisive, if I may interrupt.

[SourceOfTheTrent]

Michael Heseltine was on Jeremy Vine's show today talking the biggest dollop of sense I've heard about Brexit from any politician for a very long time. I assume it will be available on iPlayer.

[Regal Beagle]

Someone else said that "Democracy was wasted on the electorate." The voters have certainly got some poor representatives nowadays, probably more interested in their better paid part-time jobs. Not the voters` fault though, they can only choose from what`s put in front of them, and only in a few marginal seats does it make any difference.

 

I honestly believe that there is a lot of complacency in Parliament. They are not fully accountable as they are not sovereign. I hope that they will engage a bit more with the people when we are out.