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13 hours ago, Regal Beagle said:

Great quotes, not sure how they show that we are "not over" ww2. I'm also not sure how Germany et al are over it. I'm equally unsure what it has to do with brexit and why you are bringing it up.

Finally, I'm not sure we SHOULD 'get over it'. I think the lessons we have and continue to learn from the unbelievable sacrifices made to defeat pure evil are extremely valuable. 

Furthermore, up the mighty brexit. 

 

If you think the language used by, say, leave.eu is fine then we'll just have to disagree. 

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5 hours ago, geosname said:

Free speech is a wonderful thing, it means you get to air views even if people don't like them.... or some find offensive 

Consider what the UK would be like if the state controled what you could/couldnt/must stay..... consider the next step.... the police ringing you up to tell you to control your thought?

I'm not offended. I'm of the opinion that the constant harking back to WW2 is, well,  a bit crap.

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6 minutes ago, hillmanhunter said:

I'm not offended. I'm of the opinion that the constant harking back to WW2 is, well,  a bit crap.

I don't disagree but they have a right to do it. That's the important bit.... that's the bit I would defend.... not what they say.

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1 hour ago, Paul6754 said:

This rhetoric from Savid javed seems a tad reckless to me, would have thought the UK would do all it could to maintain business with the EU, it's biggest customer.  Is this a hint/warning of what's to come.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51161808

could it be tactics? the eu know that trade both ways is big, and might think why would we not do trade deals with them first, and if that is the thinking expect a preferential deal, but if we keep pushing a us dealwe might get the better deal? mind games every which way...

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1 hour ago, Paul6754 said:

This rhetoric from Savid javed seems a tad reckless to me, would have thought the UK would do all it could to maintain business with the EU, it's biggest customer.  Is this a hint/warning of what's to come.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51161808

Spot on post. We are going to be drip fed by this government. Leaving to an inevitable No Deal, because it will be the fault of the EU. But still we are going to illuminate and chime Big Ben, 

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6 hours ago, geosname said:

I don't disagree but they have a right to do it. That's the important bit.... that's the bit I would defend.... not what they say.

also todays grey vote, the vote we are told carried the referendum, grew up in the war years or just after and so have more cause to I wont use the words "harking back" I prefer remembering ww2, because we saw the results and consequences, and they are not easy to forget, even if we would wish to...

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4 hours ago, Davebrad said:

could it be tactics? the eu know that trade both ways is big, and might think why would we not do trade deals with them first, and if that is the thinking expect a preferential deal, but if we keep pushing a us dealwe might get the better deal? mind games every which way...

It could be Dave but again that would be reckless 'cause the UK can't just walk away from it's largest trading partner, if you can't walk away it's not negotiation. Once the UK is out of the EU I can't see how the EU can give the UK favorable trading terms compared to other non-EU partners 'cause they'll all want the same unless it can be done under some trade agreement.

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21 hours ago, hillmanhunter said:

If you think the language used by, say, leave.eu is fine then we'll just have to disagree. 

I think there has been far bigger use of unacceptable language on the remain side.

 

They've called leavers racists and nazis for years. A systematic attack using lies and smears.

 

And it's not just me that found the language used by leave eu to be fine - it was the majority of us. Time and again. In fact, if there was evidence of any side of the brexit debate being found to be using unacceptable langauge then I'd look at the perennial losers first, we the public have consistently voted against them. Why do you think that is?

 

(FYI - I won't accept "brainwashed by media" or "everyone is racist now" as answers unless you can actually evidence it).

 

 

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11 hours ago, Paul6754 said:

It could be Dave but again that would be reckless 'cause the UK can't just walk away from it's largest trading partner, if you can't walk away it's not negotiation. Once the UK is out of the EU I can't see how the EU can give the UK favorable trading terms compared to other non-EU partners 'cause they'll all want the same unless it can be done under some trade agreement.

to be able to walk away is our key to these negotiations, parliament stopped May doing this but she was half hearted, now Boris as made it clear and as the backing of parliament to go into the talks and face up to the eu, lets deal we want this, you want that, but we will walk away in Dec. 2020...

   The eu is supposed to be union for the common good of its members, if one wants to leave do you threaten cajol them, horseface predicts we will rejoin the eu, they better remember that in the coming talks...and according to trade figs in May 2019 we sold £31.1 billion,to the eu, and bought £40.5 billion,

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