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Davebrad

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On 07/01/2020 at 23:54, Davebrad said:

He was a farsighted fella our Winston, 77yrs ago he referred to 31st Jan.2020 when he said "now this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning." 

then the nitty gritty stuff begins, and we go to the table with a strong hand, because finally we're showing them we are negotiating from strength...

What strength Dave?

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What strength Dave?
Why. the strength of the majority of the British electorate. Plus at least 80 majority in parliament. And any of the others who believe in democracy. 19 in the Brexit leave vote
So now the EU know we arn.t dithering. And now have the resolve to push ahead and if we can.t get a good deal we will leave with out one...
As the saying goes" you can roll the dice till they call your bluff. But you can.t win till your not afraid to lose"...

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6 hours ago, Davebrad said:

Why. the strength of the majority of the British electorate. Plus at least 80 majority in parliament. And any of the others who believe in democracy. 19 in the Brexit leave vote
So now the EU know we arn.t dithering. And now have the resolve to push ahead and if we can.t get a good deal we will leave with out one...
As the saying goes" you can roll the dice till they call your bluff. But you can.t win till your not afraid to lose"...
 

The simple ability to say no...... it's the strongest negotiating position there is.

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7 hours ago, geosname said:

£500000 To ring big Ben?..... that's about £800 from each MP with change... that's about £4.40p per week for the 3.5 years they drew salary for talking about it and screwing it up.... sounds reasonable to me

there was suggestions that church bells should be rung to celebrate on 1st feb, but some vicars didn't like the idea, bringing the almighty in as a leaver...so what say street parties?...

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Nige hasn't done anything, Boris hasn't done anything.... the voters have done it.... it was their choice and they decided overwhelmingly to do it... that's democracy in action.

It seems the only people who don't seem to realise what's happening are Labour and the people who kept shouting that if the people got to choose again they would choose remain...... and the EU who seem to be in some confused state and delusional.... they still haven't grasped the notion that the UK leaving isn't dependant on a deal, that will be a fixed point in time.

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3 minutes ago, Nofinikea said:

The biggest load of tripe I have ever seen posted on this website, which is quite an accolade.

You keep deluding yourself pal.... if you need someone to blame try the party who reneged on their previous manifesto promise and offered everything for free in a futile attempt to win.... the only thing the Tories offered was to get brexit done and they got a landslide... Perhaps the young voters just didn't care enough? Perhaps Labour voters simply rejected jezza? Perhaps the remain parties overestimated their support? It matters little, the electorate made the decision and here we are.

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51 minutes ago, geosname said:

You keep deluding yourself pal.... if you need someone to blame try the party who reneged on their previous manifesto promise and offered everything for free in a futile attempt to win.... the only thing the Tories offered was to get brexit done and they got a landslide... Perhaps the young voters just didn't care enough? Perhaps Labour voters simply rejected jezza? Perhaps the remain parties overestimated their support? It matters little, the electorate made the decision and here we are.

all the free this free that, didn't persuade the majority of voters again... perhaps because they had enough sence to think "hang on how/who will pay for it ?"

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5 hours ago, Nofinikea said:

You will be wanting Nige to give you all an Independence Day style speech next.  I am not sure you lot understand that this wasnt a war but a political game played by Boris and his etonian chums, moving you all around like pawns in a game of chess to get the power they crave.  They turned Stoke on Trent blue off the back of this and still none of you realise what's happened....

Happy Independence Day! 

how come that's the only thing you all say "you didn't know what you were voting for", after 3 votes ALL the same result, we know... that beggers the question for you remoaners "do I understand what democracy means" Accept it come on in the waters fine, and that's the coffee you can smell...its not such a big deal to admit you were beat... and the world wont stop turning, the sun still comes up in the east,  cause its now blue over  Stoke on Trent...

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5 hours ago, Nofinikea said:

 

Happy Independence Day! 

As a ps...... there are no independent nations/countries, they all have some dependency on others..... we won't be independent just less dependent. We may be able to make our own decisions about what we want but we still rely on others to agree to give it to us.... that's not the case for EU member nations/countries.

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