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9 minutes ago, Erniemossrules said:

Incontinent Corbyn doesn’t know what he does want except to get his grubby little hands on No 10 which is looking more less likely.

His only chance for power has gone because even the other remain parties don’t want to be responsible for allowing him to run the country which would be 10 times worse than no deal.Even his chum Nicola Sturgeon wants a referendum in Scotland before she backs him.

Just need the EU to refuse an extension then it’s job done.

 

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4 hours ago, Nofinikea said:

No.  I think a 2nd vote needs to have a minimum turnout to be valid first of all and then if the original vote is to be overturned then a certain remain majority must be achieved, say 60% for example?  So for arguments sake, if 60% of 80% of the electorate votes to reverse the decision then so be it, otherwise we carry on with the original result.

That means approximately 27M people would need to vote to reverse the decision,  approx 10M more than originally voted to leave.  To get those numbers a significant number of leavers would have to vote the other way 2nd time around.

Now why wouldnt any Brexit supporter accept that?

What a load of illogical cobblers!  So you're arguing to change all the ground-rules that applied to the first referendum?  Presumably, all the people pushing for a 2nd referendum are worried that should the binary question/straight majority be put again you would lose? It's almost as illogical as the stupid argument that gets trotted out that a 2nd referendum is a show of democracy--in that case, why isn't the first referendum a perfectly legitimate show of democracy? And if it is, why then should there be another vote? QED.

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22 hours ago, Fosse69 said:

Any Labour MP backing Johnson should surely not expect to stand at the next election,

Why?  If they are REPRESENTING their electorate if they're in a leave voting constituency.  Surely that's the job they were elected to do?  A bit different in Corbyn's case.  As a life-long anti-EU (on the record if you wish to check) MP how does he square the circle of representing a constituency in Islington that overwhelmingly voted remain? I would argue that any Labour MP who's in a leave voting area and votes for the deal is being much more open & honest than Corbyn and any other Labour MPs in leave constituencies who continue to argue for remain or a second vote!

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40 minutes ago, Bycarsbill said:

Why?  If they are REPRESENTING their electorate if they're in a leave voting constituency.  Surely that's the job they were elected to do?  A bit different in Corbyn's case.  As a life-long anti-EU (on the record if you wish to check) MP how does he square the circle of representing a constituency in Islington that overwhelmingly voted remain? I would argue that any Labour MP who's in a leave voting area and votes for the deal is being much more open & honest than Corbyn and any other Labour MPs in leave constituencies who continue to argue for remain or a second vote!

So much for Smeeth and Snell voting for the deal .

They both voted for the Letwin bill which undermined the deal vote.

Both snakes using excuses to not upset Comrade Corbyn.

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13 minutes ago, Erniemossrules said:

So much for Smeeth and Snell voting for the deal .

They both voted for the Letwin bill which undermined the deal vote.

Both snakes using excuses to not upset Comrade Corbyn.

You’re angry at Corbyn for an Oliver letwin bill. You’ll be blaming him for the poll tax next. 

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13 minutes ago, For Us All said:

Do you?

And that just sums you up. You want to criticise and complain but can’t even commit to anything of substance. All these posts and you can’t even answer if you yourself support it. You’ve taken the geo stance. Prefer to not be wrong than have a back bone. 

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1 hour ago, Andyregs said:

And that just sums you up. You want to criticise and complain but can’t even commit to anything of substance. All these posts and you can’t even answer if you yourself support it. You’ve taken the geo stance. Prefer to not be wrong than have a back bone. 

Spot on,I've decided to follow parliaments example,criticise and complain and play delaying tactics.

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33 minutes ago, For Us All said:

Spot on,I've decided to follow parliaments example,criticise and complain and play delaying tactics.

You mean to say you are following the Corbyn Swinson plan in other words we will do anything to stop a deal and stuff democracy.

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21 hours ago, Mario said:

All because it doesn't suit the elite to leave a corrupt EU.

Who is this "elite" to whom you refer?  Does it include Boris Johnson (Eton and Oxford), or Jacob Rees Mogg (Eton and Oxford) son of a millionnaire, Bill Cash (independent school and Oxford) or James Ratcliffe (billionnaire), or James Dyson (billionnaire).  If not, I'm confused by your definition of "elite".

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