Brexit again...

[For Us All]

1 hour ago, Jacko51 said:

So he did turn up for a meeting with no apparent preparation papers?

He did have papers,they were just not on the table.

[tommytunstall]

I agree with Bycars Bill, I to voted to Remain but the majority wanted out, don't agree with it, but that is democracy. If Johnson comes back with a deal then opposition should seriously consider backing it. Not play party politics as Labour is doing when whipping MPS not to vote for it. Johnsons preference is no deal, and I worry that opposition parties could let him achieve this through the back door.

[Howjy04]

Boris/Juncker -We have a deal.

[For Us All]

5 hours ago, Andyregs said:

Which was his job. What did he achieve in those two years.

If people voted for some dream scenario they made up in their head, then is it parliaments fault for not delivering it? Voting has consequences. In this cases the consequence is a mess. 

Well,he obviously didn't achieve a lot but he was working for a Remainer PM,which wouldn't help.In fact Boris has achieved more in two months than Davis did in two years.

[Iron Curtain]

15 hours ago, Regal Beagle said:

 

Whatever, I'm not engaging in this particular personal attack. 

 

I will say that your posts have been pathetic, childish and completely untrue. They fit in well with a handful of other people's posts in this thread. They follow a similar dishonest pattern too.

 

For any Admin reading - This thread has descended into complete and utter chaos - how on earth Ben Whitfield and Norman Smurthwaite are relevant in the slightest I don't know. Is anything being done about it? 

I notice that if I'm lucky I might get the pure abuse edited out of these hit piece posts if I report them. Is it really acceptable on this forum to behave like this?

 

Getting sick to death of people lying about me non stop. 

 

 

You sound cross

[geosname]

2 hours ago, tommytunstall said:

I agree with Bycars Bill, I to voted to Remain but the majority wanted out, don't agree with it, but that is democracy. If Johnson comes back with a deal then opposition should seriously consider backing it. Not play party politics as Labour is doing when whipping MPS not to vote for it. Johnsons preference is no deal, and I worry that opposition parties could let him achieve this through the back door.

Benn says he will support it......... with a referendum..... so whatever the deal is it's irrelevant? 

[Andyregs]

3 hours ago, geosname said:

They didnt vote for a dream scenario they voted to leave

So they voted in ignorance then. Either or. 

[Davebrad]

14 hours ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

That'd be Louise Ellman, chair of the Labour Friends of Israel. Ah, OK. Ta-ra. 

yes another terrorist state, or at least a lesser one than it was, but if I had to choose between Israel  or jeremys friends in Syria, iran, Iraq, Ireland, it would be Israel... well it would be after -00000000000000000001 of a seconds thought.

[Andyregs]

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/10/uk-set-give-best-deal-any-eu-member-state-has-ever-had

[Andyregs]

3 minutes ago, Davebrad said:

yes another terrorist state,

Would this be classed as anti-semitism? 

[Andyregs]

1 hour ago, For Us All said:

Well,he obviously didn't achieve a lot but he was working for a Remainer PM,which wouldn't help.In fact Boris has achieved more in two months than Davis did in two years.

He achieved nothing.

Are we going to pretend that your only issue with Mays deal was the Irish backstop now?

[geosname]

18 minutes ago, Andyregs said:

So they voted in ignorance then. Either or. 

They voted on the information the people in the know gave them..... if the people in the know are ignorant how is that the voters fault.

[Davebrad]

6 hours ago, Andyregs said:

Which was his job. What did he achieve in those two years.

If people voted for some dream scenario they made up in their head, then is it parliaments fault for not delivering it? Voting has consequences. In this cases the consequence is a mess. 

but did people vote for some dream scenario? they voted to a question posed by the then prime minister, after parliament passed the European Union Referendum Bill... I grant you that most did not expect the result, but they should have been more professional in trying to implement the result.

[Davebrad]

18 minutes ago, Andyregs said:

Would this be classed as anti-semitism? 

possibly, but its our history, they did resort to terrorism to gain their state, and I don't ignore history because pc has gone mad...

[whotobeakiller]

18 hours ago, Andyregs said:

Well that’s two of you who have finally admitted to not knowing what you voted for despite being outraged at people for suggesting it for the last two years.  And no, remainers didn’t know the complexities either, that’s literally my point. However, we knew exactly what we were voting for.

Not admitting to anything of the sort. Like a majority of 17.4 million people, I voted to leave to eradicate some of the EU induced practices that have gone on for years disadvantaging the working classes such as unlimited immigration and lack of social housing and high rents and that is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

What I am saying is it is not and never was  for 17.4 million people to prove they are Political experts in justifying why they left. That is an unfair way of looking at reasons why a referendum must be reran. If anything, it shows that a political establishment are clutching at straws in stating that their fears are justified and people were unaware of their fears.It also is a smoke and mirror tactic to disguise the fact that the political establishment had a duty to use their political expertise to make leaving work...Parliament have instead done everything in it's power to oppose and not respect the result instead of actually doing what was expected of them and working together to achieve a leave outcome satisfactory to the referendum decision which was to leave with or without a deal

Those remainder fears were dismissed by political leave experts and all considered before people placed their x in the relevant box. David Cameron stated the decision of the people would be enacted...this should be the reason why the referendum result should be respected