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Davebrad

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No, just sick to the back teeth of the deputy leader's pernicious and duplicitous undermining of Corbyn. Can not <ovf censored> wait for him to get kicked out, absolute tosser. Laughing at the likes of Jess and Wes stating how we need to be united and fight the tories when all they (and Watson) have ever done is try to sow seeds of discontent and snipe. (Oh, and if Corbyn is 'forced' to resign, there's no way on earth that Watson would win a ballot of our 500,000 members to become leader. We're a socialist party after all.)

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4 hours ago, Fosse69 said:


It is the principle which is at stake, also at a crucial point of Brexit. I am surprised they did not sit through the conference season myself. On reflection perhaps not it is only the country at risk.

 

Principals in parliament?  ... now you have gone to far.

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2 hours ago, Mario said:

Just when a strong opposition is required what do Labour do ? Try and ditch the position of deputy leader Tom Watson, looks like Momentum are making their move before a general election,does any one think that if Labour lose a general election then Corbyn will be forced to resign his position, making Watson the leader and so the left will have lost their power ?

Typical..... the biggest day in Labour's recent history approaches and they start infighting 

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5 hours ago, Fosse69 said:


It is the principle which is at stake, also at a crucial point of Brexit. I am surprised they did not sit through the conference season myself. On reflection perhaps not it is only the country at risk.

 

True Fosse, but in my book these days it seems Politicians + Principles = 0, zilch, nowt i.e. they care only for political self preservation.

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13 hours ago, Mario said:

I could be wrong but wouldn't parliament be closed now anyway due to the annual bean feast party conferences ? if thats the case they have lost approx. 5 days work and considering what that lot can achieve in 3 years 5 days is just a drop in the ocean.

Correct.

Remainers in this thread are simultaneously arguing that we should observe an 80 year old precedent whilst at the same time breaking an 80 year old precedent.

It's another one of those scenarious where they'd have been more than happy with it if it was their side that did it, but because it's not they are pretending to be outraged.

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11 hours ago, Mario said:

Just when a strong opposition is required what do Labour do ? Try and ditch the position of deputy leader Tom Watson, looks like Momentum are making their move before a general election,does any one think that if Labour lose a general election then Corbyn will be forced to resign his position, making Watson the leader and so the left will have lost their power ?

Has to win a ballot for that. 

8 hours ago, geosname said:

Typical..... the biggest day in Labour's recent history approaches and they start infighting 

Closing in on the biggest day in countries recent history and tories remove their prime minister and throw out 20 of their mps losing their majority.

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8 hours ago, Aussie Rules said:

True Fosse, but in my book these days it seems Politicians + Principles = 0, zilch, nowt i.e. they care only for political self preservation.

Agreed, but Parliament is Sovereign , it is up to the MPs to keep the Government in check irrespective of party, otherwise only the Supreme Court can ensure that autocrats follow the rules now that conventions have been thrown out of the house.

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2 hours ago, Fosse69 said:

That is why the Supreme Court is involved!!

The suprime court is only involved because someone doesn't like the judgement they received. 

They are actually being asked to define a motive..... I don't think anyone is actually saying he can't do what he did, because obviously he can, as others have..... the question is why he did it..... I haven't seen much law that suggests he can't do it.

That's why it's a dangerous move.... it opens a door that can never be closed.

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7 hours ago, Nofinikea said:

 

You feel it's no big deal, so why did he porogue parliment?  If it's no big deal, why bother to do it?  If it doesnt really matter why put himself in the firing line?

I dont expect any kind of sensible response so you can stop panicking and googling the answers.

Haha is that a dig at me for posting evidence all the time?

Maybe a compliment that you think my knowledge is that good? 

Why does any government prorogue? 

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8 hours ago, geosname said:

The suprime court is only involved because someone doesn't like the judgement they received. 

They are actually being asked to define a motive..... I don't think anyone is actually saying he can't do what he did, because obviously he can, as others have..... the question is why he did it..... I haven't seen much law that suggests he can't do it.

That's why it's a dangerous move.... it opens a door that can never be closed.

It is a simple change, just make closing parliament a decision by parliament, doesn't stop the government doing it for a justifiable reason, but prevents misuse by dictators who could close parliament for months.

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