Brexit again...

[mr.hobblesworth]

Even though I know everything I see on here is typed, I always imagine FUA's posts have been written in crayon. It's now got to the point where I imagine Regal Beagle's are written in his <edit> on the wall of his padded cell or local Conservative club. 

[Regal Beagle]

52 minutes ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

Even though I know everything I see on here is typed, I always imagine FUA's posts have been written in crayon. It's now got to the point where I imagine Regal Beagle's are written in his <edit>on the wall of his padded cell or local Conservative club. 

Insults and no reasoning or logic provided 

It is definitely a Mr H post.

[For Us All]

11 hours ago, Nofinikea said:

Another one lapping up the rhetoric of a right wing Tory government.

As has been pointed out to Beagle, over the last 24 hours it has been explained many times why they are opposing this motion.  They have all said, they welcome an election but only after the no deal bill is done.  This stops Johnson using the election to crash out without a deal via the back door.

I can only say you are either not listening and/or understanding the reason why the election is being called in the first place.  It's really not difficult to understand is it?

I dont really want another extension, but no deal is generally deemed to be catastrophic and it's not politicians telling us that.  An extension where no deal isn't an option means everyone can get back around the table with the posturing and sabre rattling removed and sensibly sort it out.

Johnson cant be trusted.  Only a wind up merchant or a complete <ovf censored> would support and back the likes of Johnson and Rees Mog.  Brexiteers are dancing with the devil by courting such vermin.  

Who would have thought that died in the wool labour supporters would be championing the most right wing Tory government since Thatcher closed the pits?

These are strange times where people are so entrenched they will cling to anything or anyone, even if they are Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees Mog.

I'm not lapping up anything,I'm just supporting somebody who is trying to do what I voted for and that is to Leave.Everybody else seems to be trying to prevent it happening through any means possible.

[For Us All]

54 minutes ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

Even though I know everything I see on here is typed, I always imagine FUA's posts have been written in crayon. It's now got to the point where I imagine Regal Beagle's are written in his <edit> on the wall of his padded cell or local Conservative club. 

Be careful or you'll get banned again?🎣

[Jacko51]

17 minutes ago, For Us All said:

I'm not lapping up anything,I'm just supporting somebody who is trying to do what I voted for and that is to Leave.Everybody else seems to be trying to prevent it happening through any means possible.

I want to leave in the best way for the country and that is categorically not by No Deal.  If it was, Johnson and Co would have done it as soon as he became PM.

[For Us All]

14 hours ago, Regal Beagle said:

Why won't they agree to an election Fosse?

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[Fosse69]

1 hour ago, Aussie Rules said:

I'm guessing it doesn't make any difference one way or 'other because if a deal is not in place come Brexit day then the UK is out of the EU and no deal.

The only way of avoiding it is to ask for an extension to cater for an election or referendum, likely to be agreed by the EU but carries a country veto.

[Fosse69]

There is no need for an election, the Rebels have 2 weeks to seek a confidence vote for their own government if they so which, firstly there has to be a vote of no confidence in the current government..

[Fosse69]

Will Hammond the Rebel slow the drift of the broad church into a Farage style party?

[Fosse69]

2 hours ago, Aussie Rules said:

Because it's all political gobledy-gook  RB.

It seems to me the EU, especially Germany and France, want the UK under their thumbs and in the EU. Johnson is a political fool in believing they will offer the UK 'Peace in our time' post Brexit. This is another 1066/Civil War/Battle of Britain with the actions of one person - William I/Oliver Cromwell/Winston Churchill - stepping up and grabbing the Nation by the scruff of the neck to give it clear air and a sense of purpose to achieving Brexit.

Instead, all I see is bunch of overpaid and self opinionated individuals behaving like the 'Dog in the manger'.  

It is not a war, the crux is whether we trade with our neighbours under mutual conditions, or become subject to more American influence. The 3 ruled the EU and 95% of the trading rules were ours. Compromise or throw it all away, that is the difference between deal or no-deal. The grandson of Winston was sacked on the new pretenders first day.

[ginge]

55 minutes ago, For Us All said:

I'm not lapping up anything,I'm just supporting somebody who is trying to do what I voted for and that is to Leave.Everybody else seems to be trying to prevent it happening through any means possible.

Boris voted against the withdrawal agreement a couple of times before changing his mind....he's delayed the process himself!!

He's now thrown out other MPs who voted for the agreement, they were trying to get Brexit through, but because they are against no deal which has no public or parliamentary majority, he's thrown them out! 

[ginge]

45 minutes ago, For Us All said:

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Boris didn't even turn up to his own general election debate. He'll lose his seat in the next GE. And there's one coming soon.

[geosname]

46 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

I want to leave in the best way for the country and that is categorically not by No Deal.  If it was, Johnson and Co would have done it as soon as he became PM.

Fine sentiment Jean but at the moment it can't happen.

The withdrawal agreement is in name only as it ties the UK to the EU rules and laws so we don't leave..... no deal is coming off the table so we don't leave..... the EU have stated quite categorically Mays deal is all there is..... so we can't leave..... and if the EU do change the deal there will be backlash against it and will also cause some political turmoil.

[geosname]

19 minutes ago, ginge said:

Boris voted against the withdrawal agreement a couple of times before changing his mind....he's delayed the process himself!!

He's now thrown out other MPs who voted for the agreement, they were trying to get Brexit through, but because they are against no deal which has no public or parliamentary majority, he's thrown them out! 

One flaw in your argument...... there is no parliamentary majority for the only deal on the table..... it was tried 3 times and failed.... it even failed with suggested amendments...... there is no public or parliamentary majority for remain either.

It would be a very simplistic to blame one person..... either May or Boris.....  600+ Mps are the culprits.

[Fosse69]

2 minutes ago, geosname said:

Fine sentiment Jean but at the moment it can't happen.

The withdrawal agreement is in name only as it ties the UK to the EU rules and laws so we don't leave..... no deal is coming off the table so we don't leave..... the EU have stated quite categorically Mays deal is all there is..... so we can't leave..... and if the EU do change the deal there will be backlash against it and will also cause some political turmoil.

But the political agreement allows us to negotiate  trade deals in a leisurely fashion over 2 years, accepting   the deal a year ago we would be half way through by now. Ireland is the problem.