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Davebrad

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It's more like saying you had an election in 2017..... you don't get another because you don't like who won.

If politicians want a second referendum on Mays deal..... fine..... Mays deal or no deal...... should be the question..... or Mays deal...... yes or no.

That's acceptable because it's a vote on how to leave not whether we should leave.... but let's not rig it from the start.... with Mays deal.... no deal... remain.... remain could get as little as 40% of the vote and win.... is that the fiddled democracy we will accept?

 

As for polls..... didn't they say remain would win?..... trump would lose big?

 

The grubby technology used for Trumps campaign was tested in the EU referendum. It worked. Both campaigns were corrupt

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So a non violent civil war then?

 

There have been wars started over much less then a tyrannical abuse of government power - which is arguably the most extreme form of violence in history.

 

Luckily I think they realise that they must leave the EU. Unfortunately they're going to be very liberal with the definition of leave.

 

Hopefully it will be that bad that we have no option but to fully leave in a few years time.

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No evidence presented that you have the fact 17.4 million people wanted a deal

 

What would they think then if we left with no deal? This was the problem with the first referendum; it was a vote on what was then an abstract concept. Even then the likes of Farage told us we'd get a deal. Assuming tomorrow's vote goes the way of the other two what are those who believed we'd get one to think?

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I said there are many leave voters who want her deal. I gave you some evidence for leave voters wanting her deal.

 

Some want Mays deal.

Some will accept Mays deal just to get out.

Some don't want Mays deal.

 

They all want to leave.... they all voted to leave..... fewer voted to stay.

 

Some wanted to remain and fight from within.

Some wanted to remain no matter what it cost.

Some wanted to remain no matter how federal Europe got.

 

They all wanted to remain... they all voted to remain.... more voted to leave

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What would they think then if we left with no deal? This was the problem with the first referendum; it was a vote on what was then an abstract concept. Even then the likes of Farage told us we'd get a deal. Assuming tomorrow's vote goes the way of the other two what are those who believed we'd get one to think?

 

The question on the ballot paper was Leave or Remain...what do you think leaving the EU meant? Leave means leave

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There have been wars started over much less then a tyrannical abuse of government power - which is arguably the most extreme form of violence in history.

 

 

So if brexit doesn’t happen, you would want a war and the death of remainers, even though a new vote may show more want to Stay? You’d prefer a war to decide if that was right or not , instead of a vote. You were calling remainers vindictive?

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So if brexit doesn’t happen, you would want a war and the death of remainers, even though a new vote may show more want to Stay? You’d prefer a war to decide if that was right or not , instead of a vote. You were calling remainers vindictive?

 

ANDY?! :laugh:

 

Please calm down.

 

I've categorically said that I am against all forms of violence, I actually can't quite believe what you are accusing me of here.

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Discussions in parliament.... 2 petitions.

 

1... 160,000 want another referendum.

2... 165,000 want the original referendum honoured.

 

Does that count as a poll?.... or an indicator?

It certainly suggests there hasn't been a massive swing to remain.

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So if brexit doesn’t happen, you would want a war and the death of remainers, even though a new vote may show more want to Stay? You’d prefer a war to decide if that was right or not , instead of a vote. You were calling remainers vindictive?

 

It could be a war of attrition mate...... a bit like what's going on inside parliament at the moment.

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ANDY?! :laugh:

 

Please calm down.

 

I've categorically said that I am against all forms of violence, I actually can't quite believe what you are accusing me of here.

 

I’m making a point. You’ve taken off the cuff comments by myself and just from another person, and latched on to them. And then didn’t let go when explained what it was. I know you wouldn’t want an actual civil war. People make off the cuff comments to make a point sometimes. You seem to take what everyone else says literally.

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