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He’s done a decent job so far especially with what and who he has worked with. Yes, he has made mistakes as any manager who has stepped up is bound to do. He should be judged on how he does with a full season behind him, let’s hope Smurf supports him to help make next season successful.
Conceding 5 at Cheltenham is not doing a decent job..... Main thing that concerns me and he has said this himself is that he has fielded the same team that played against Luton (minus Gunning) yet have been have terrible time and time again so all this shows is he's either clueless how to get the best out of them or had lost them altogether. Purely my opinion but I don't think any player enjoys playing for him or the club and if his dour monotone body language in his interviews is anything go by I bet training is full of high spirits and enthusiasm amongst the boys.....

 

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Conceding 5 at Cheltenham is not doing a decent job..... Main thing that concerns me and he has said this himself is that he has fielded the same team that played against Luton (minus Gunning) yet have been have terrible time and time again so all this shows is he's either clueless how to get the best out of them or had lost them altogether. Purely my opinion but I don't think any player enjoys playing for him or the club and if his dour monotone body language in his interviews is anything go by I bet training is full of high spirits and enthusiasm amongst the boys.....

 

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Ever thought he IS getting the best out of them but because the owner will only pay peanuts for cheaper players, their best just isn’t good enough.

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Ever thought he IS getting the best out of them but because the owner will only pay peanuts for cheaper players, their best just isn’t good enough.
No he got the best out of them against Luton and Coventry but since has completely lost it and as for money them players are getting paid the same now as they did in December by the way......

 

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No he got the best out of them against Luton and Coventry but since has completely lost it and as for money them players are getting paid the same now as they did in December by the way......

 

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Gunnings getting more.

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No he got the best out of them against Luton and Coventry but since has completely lost it and as for money them players are getting paid the same now as they did in December by the way......

 

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Haven’t you wanted him out since the day he was appointed?

 

 

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Absolutely not I wanted him be a success as much as anyone like I said before he was my hero growing up

 

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Then why have you never given him a chance? Surly being ‘one of your hero’s’ would make you more patient with him?

 

 

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Then why have you never given him a chance? Surly being ‘one of your hero’s’ would make you more patient with him?

 

 

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Indeed it has but we have to be careful not to be blinded by the fact he's a legend, I was saying to a mate this weekend if it was anyone else they wud be under alot of pressure already.

 

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Indeed it has but we have to be careful not to be blinded by the fact he's a legend, I was saying to a mate this weekend if it was anyone else they wud be under alot of pressure already.

 

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When he came in all his job was to keep us up (as we were marooned with FGR and Chesterfield when he was appointed). If he does keep us up then that’s a job well done!

 

 

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When he came in all his job was to keep us up (as we were marooned with FGR and Chesterfield when he was appointed). If he does keep us up then that’s a job well done!

 

 

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Agree with that but I can't help worrying about the fact he has no idea how to get individuals playing well and it's not just 1 or 2 players that have stopped playing for him it seems to be the lot at the moment, we know the likes of Pope, Whitfield, Worral, Forrester, Smith, Gibbons and even Montano are better players than they are showing at the moment so why can't Aspo getting them playing??

 

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I simply don't believe or accept that if money had been made available to Aspin (and Rudge) in January they would not have tried to sign an experienced keeper, left back and also looked at the likes of Dodds and Richards (who still lives 20 miles away). They are not brain dead and know more about football than we'll all ever know, clever though we all think we are.

 

We were dead and buried last autumn. We're now in the mix but with a buffer of points at the moment. This year has been poor but you can only play the hand you're dealt and I've said for the past 6 months that 90% of these players probably won't be here next season and that, personally, I'd only keep 4-5 of them at most. Collectively they are not good enough.

 

Pope has been a massive success this season and head and shoulders our best player. How anyone can fault him is a mystery to me.

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I simply don't believe or accept that if money had been made available to Aspin (and Rudge) in January they would not have tried to sign an experienced keeper, left back and also looked at the likes of Dodds and Richards (who still lives 20 miles away). They are not brain dead and know more about football than we'll all ever know, clever though we all think we are.

 

We were dead and buried last autumn. We're now in the mix but with a buffer of points at the moment. This year has been poor but you can only play the hand you're dealt and I've said for the past 6 months that 90% of these players probably won't be here next season and that, personally, I'd only keep 4-5 of them at most. Collectively they are not good enough.

 

Pope has been a massive success this season and head and shoulders our best player. How anyone can fault him is a mystery to me.

 

Good post. I heard a whisper that Dodds was offered more money and a longer contract at Chesterfield than we were prepared to. How we couldn't get a new left back I don't know, even someone on loan.

 

I mentioned on another post somewhere that if you look at our recent matchday squads that you can probably only see us building around 5 of them for the foreseeable future - Smith, Worrall, Hannant, Gibbons and Pope. The rest will either go back to their respective clubs, be too old or just remain as squad players for us.

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If your fishing at the bottom of the barrel with no bait you have to take whatever you are lucky enough to catch... if Smurf doesn't provide the bait we will have to trust to luck and a bit of judgement on Haskins part.... it's going to be a long long season

 

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I mentioned on another post somewhere that if you look at our recent matchday squads that you can probably only see us building around 5 of them for the foreseeable future - Smith, Worrall, Hannant, Gibbons and Pope. The rest will either go back to their respective clubs, be too old or just remain as squad players for us.

 

If that's the case then I can understand Norman holding fire on spending until the summer - as long as Neil Aspin has told him that we should be OK until then. However if the chairman is deciding we'll be fine in terms of staying up, that's very much not OK! He probably knows even less about football than most of us do.

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If that's the case then I can understand Norman holding fire on spending until the summer - as long as Neil Aspin has told him that we should be OK until then. However if the chairman is deciding we'll be fine in terms of staying up, that's very much not OK! He probably knows even less about football than most of us do.

 

Good point and I fully agree.

 

No one knows who made the call and it's down to everyone's bias which they believe is more likely.

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An increasing number of people on here seem to be calling for aspins head. Quite frankly, I think this is ridiculous.

 

He inherited a squad that is clearly terrible and unbalanced. From 5 points after 11 games, he's taken us to 34. Most agreed that if he could avoid relegation with this squad it would be a miracle. Despite the doom mongers still predicting this, I honestly don't think it will happen. There are worse clubs than us in this league, thankfully, and we will scrape through.

 

Aspin has come in for criticism for his recruitment/actions in January. From what has happened I think that aspin took the view that he did not want, unless absolutely necessary, to tie up next year's budget in making panic permanent signings, given that most permanent signings in January would likely have been players that:

 

1. Other clubs didn't want;

 

2. Wanted at least an 18 month contract; and/or

 

3. Wanted too much money for their ability knowing we were struggling.

 

The above may explain the gunning situation, and I can't say that I blame him for doing this. He obviously wants pretty much a completely clean slate for July to get his own team in and I suspect that most of the current players will be gone at the end of the season including some of those under contract for next season.

 

As for the failure to sign a keeper in January, I'm sure he would have loved nothing more. However, signing a decent keeper in January is nigh on impossible, as most clubs will not want to let any experienced keepers go, given the potential for injuries in the second half of the season. Again, I don't blame him for not recruiting one in January.

 

Current form is not good. We would all agree that. Is that aspins fault? He must, as the manager, bear some responsibility, and I'm sure he accepts that, but what on earth can he do to prevent:

 

1. Players not sticking with their designated man, leaving them completely free in the penalty area?

 

2. Our gks making horrendous errors of judgment that you wouldn't see most weeks in the Sunday pub league?

 

3. Professional players not being able to pass a ball to a teammate over 5 yards, nor being able to clear the first man on most set pieces that we take?

 

The common denominator this season has been the players. They have to bear the lions share of the responsibility. Unfortunately, many seem unwilling to do so, instead preferring to blame the pitch or, in the case of our outfield players, the gk. They seem to think that they can shirk themselves of responsibility by simply hoofing the ball up to Tom as soon as they get it. I can't accept that that is aspins instructions.

 

Can anyone name a side that has ever been successful in the long term by changing their manager every year? Success is born of stability and long term thinking. Given time, I've no doubt whatsoever that aspin and Jr will change the fortunes of this club for the better. You may criticise our chairman, but how is changing the manager every 12 months going to help? If he doesn't get the backing from norman, I have little doubt that he will either walk of his own volition, or come out and say that (he has been refreshingly honest since being appointed).

 

He has been criticised for persisting with 1 up top most of the time, but who can blame him with our centre midfield and insistence from the players in simply hoofing it? If we play 2 up top, our midfield and defence is completely exposed. I believe that Angus represents how he will set out his side next season when he has the players, with pacy wide men getting in behind. We simply don't have the players to do that this season.

 

If, come November next season, our squad is no better and in a similar position to this season then, quite rightly, serious questions will be asked, particularly if he has been backed appropriately. Until then, please give the man a chance. He is not infallible by any means, and will have learnt a lot this season (not least from the regis situation), but nobody else would have done an appreciably better job with the hand that he was dealt.

 

Back the manager. He will be hurting as much as any of us, given his love for the club. Until he has had a proper opportunity to address the issues in the squad, on his terms, it's completely wrong to judge him as some have done.

 

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