Smurthwaite Out

[melv]

That’s because they were those ones the army wear I bought one , put it down somewhere 3yrs ago and still can’t find it!! Having said that where did I leave my iguana

 

 

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Any striker that plays against Vales defence must wear the same or similar style shirts.

[Valiant in Brum]

Can you guess who was one of Smurf's first and biggest critic's when Smurf first joined the club? :wink:

Me too and everyone tore into me. I Had alarm bells ringing after Wildes left and he hiked up prices and was saying silly things like 'what is it I own It'

 

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[Aussie Rules]

I would love to see NS out. But what is the point of this thread where anybody who does not condemn NS gets ridiculed.

 

Can't agree with that TT. Sure, it's all very ugly at the moment (when has it not been this last decade) but apart from a handful of posters most of us respectfully acknowledge contrary opinions

[carpetman123]

Can't agree with that TT. Sure, it's all very ugly at the moment (when has it not been this last decade) but apart from a handful of posters most of us respectfully acknowledge contrary opinions

 

For just holding a different opinion than the 'sheep' ridicule is all they come up with!

 

Just my opinion like just saying!!

[carpetman123]

Can you guess who was one of Smurf's first and biggest critic's when Smurf first joined the club? :wink:

 

And pray tell me oh great one where did I say that?.....you keeping a diary!!

[carpetman123]

As unfortunately Carpetman has posted many posts to this forum defending Norman not based on facts or reason but more to do with the personal relationship he has developed over the years.

 

Its understandable but getting tiring; if he just came on and said that he's his mate and therefore wants him to stay he'd probably get less ridicule than pretending he think's Norm's doing a good job (when he so obviously isn't) and labelling all other criticism as 'mob rule'.

 

You're another one Hagrid who thinks everything you say is gospel and riducules everybody else's point of view!

 

He's not my 'mate' as you put it and agree its time for him to go i'm just playing devils advocate on the difficult job any owner of any football club has to do!!

 

If it was easy then we'd all be top of the league but thats impossible all I seek to do is cut the guy some slack and understand running a football club with all its parameters is not easy!!

[SourceOfTheTrent]

Could you imagine us being up for re-election now?

 

What would the other 91 chairmen think of him?

"Ooh, he's just like me only fatter and slightly less competent".

 

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[Family Stand Terrier]

For just holding a different opinion than the 'sheep' ridicule is all they come up with!

 

Just my opinion like just saying!!

The irony, you complain about being ridiculed for holding a different opinion (in a later post you say you agree he should go and call it playing devils advocate, make your mind up), then you call people that hold a different opinion to you, "sheep".

 

People are concerned about the club they love. It was difficult for v2001 too, but you lead protests when they lead the club in the shambolic way that they did. We're now closer to non league than they took us, yet you're going out of your way to argue with people that are criticising Smurf for the countless mistakes he his making. I'd like to know what the difference is.

 

What is it that makes you cut Smurf some slack, where you wouldn't with v2001?

 

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[Hagrid]

You're another one Hagrid who thinks everything you say is gospel and riducules everybody else's point of view!

 

He's not my 'mate' as you put it and agree its time for him to go i'm just playing devils advocate on the difficult job any owner of any football club has to do!!

 

If it was easy then we'd all be top of the league but thats impossible all I seek to do is cut the guy some slack and understand running a football club with all its parameters is not easy!!

 

You must be very excited right now John.

 

You've been treated to 2 relegation battles in 2 years! We all know how much you love them.

 

No wonder you're still supporting Smurf.

 

Its a shame how you've clung to this sinking ship. My word may not be gospel, but its far more sensible than the heretical nonsense you come out with in defence of your chum.

 

"If it was easy then we'd all be top of the league but thats impossible".

 

[Doha]

What is it that makes you cut Smurf some slack, where you wouldn't with v2001?

 

 

V2001 didn't have any hotels

[Jacko51]

V2001 didn't have any hotels

 

I thought they had one in Blackpool with a nice set of ladders?

[mr.hobblesworth]

I agree with much of the anti-Smurtwaite stuff but the arguments always seem to be so black and white. Is it possible to think that he needs to go and that he's a buffoon who has inflicted near-fatal damage on the club whilst still believing that he's backed Aspin adequately and that the Hugill money shouldn't necessarily go towards players or toilets or whatever?

 

I want him gone, I'm not a Smurf lover but I think protests will achieve diddlysquat at best.

[Hagrid]

I agree with much of the anti-Smurtwaite stuff but the arguments always seem to be so black and white. Is it possible to think that he needs to go and that he's a buffoon who has inflicted near-fatal damage on the club whilst still believing that he's backed Aspin adequately and that the Hugill money shouldn't necessarily go towards players or toilets or whatever?

 

I want him gone, I'm not a Smurf lover but I think protests will achieve diddlysquat at best.

 

No, as Aspin admitted that the budget lowered over the January window. There's opinions and there's facts. He didn't back him. I agree protests will achieve nothing but thats more to do with the nature of Vale fans.

[mr.hobblesworth]

No, as Aspin admitted that the budget lowered over the January window. There's opinions and there's facts. He didn't back him.

 

He backed him by bringing the wage budget down though? If you add the cost of paying off the players Aspin didn't want to the cost of the new players he did bring in, I bet the overall outlay was relatively high. 'Backing Aspin' doesn't necessarily equate with 'raising the wage budget'.

 

I think the main problem, rather than monies offered to Aspin, is the damage to our reputation that Norman did when he boasted about the Page stuff. I hoped Rudge's involvement and reputation might repair some of that but obviously not.

 

I agree protests will achieve nothing but thats more to do with the nature of Vale fans.

 

I think it's less to do with the nature of Vale fans and more to do with the nature of the chairman. He's stubborn and arrogant enough to let the whole shitshow go down with him rather than back down and do the right thing. I think the more abuse he get's the more likely he is to dig his heels in.

[SuperValiant1876]

So is anyone going to actually do anything about this or shall we just keep arguing and bitching on here which is achieving nothing but causing divides?