Opinion: Stoke City and Port Vale can learn much from St Pauli’s principles

[Birdy]

On a serious note; Rob, why do you offer a platform for this patronising tripe? This is nothing more than a typically condescending swipe at the supporters of Port Vale who choose to live in the City where their club play rather than seek their fortunes in the big smoke. The "more holier than thou" NLV love to chat on their Virgin trains home about how backwards and lacking ambition us, the majority of Vale fans are for "settling" for a life in the Potteries. Without us "neanderthals" this club wouldn't exist.

 

HSV!

 

Only when we are in First class. Next time you're down to the land of milk and honey come and have a glass of crisp Chablis and canapes with us. I know a lovely Brasserie in Fitzrovia. You'll have to wear deck shoes and a pastel sweater, no grey joggers. Sorry.

[toyahw]

Ha ha ha, the Champagne Socialists' dream team team up with the Sh it and Bet XYZ. Priceless. Watching them squirm is wonderful.

[Birdy]

Ha ha ha, the Champagne Socialists' dream team team up with the Sh it and Bet XYZ. Priceless. Watching them squirm is wonderful.

 

I am glad you are getting joy from an imaginable situation Chris, nout different there mate : )

 

I have been following St Pauli for over twenty years and watching them in Hamburg and all over Germnay for about 13 years. I know of at least forty or so Vale fans from all over the country travel to watch SP play so we're well represented.

 

 

I came about them at a BHA benefit (oh how the times have changed!) gig in 97 in a scout hut in Hove. A couple of coach loads of mainly St Pauli fans but others form other German clubs too had come to offer support in Brighton's hour of need. The German fans scene and solidarity for the common cause is something you don't see in British football still. They looked out for each other even though they supported different clubs. The German FSA is very powerful and has a lot of sway within the DFB.

 

I have met people from all clubs in the England and around the world standing on the terraces of the Millerntor all with a common mindset, which can be seen at most clubs across Germany including those on the fringe of the city following H$V.

 

The German model in general is one to aspire to, low prices, 49% ownership rule, beer on the terraces (yep standing), fan representation etc.

 

Many in the UK who adhere to the teeth sucking, 'Green Street' posturing of football detest SP because of their stance on many issues and their link with Celtic, which admittedly I don't get either. Ironically no PV/SP fan I know follows Celtic but the H$V lot adore Rangers for the obvious reasons. I know a few H$V fans over there who also support Altona 93 too, nice people.

 

Whether you have a soft spot for SP, H$V or any other German club their culture and what their fans have is something for all of us to aspire to.

 

Their links to Sjoke has no baring on anything, a very odd coupling but I will be in the away end when they visit the Sh*t-hole.

 

Anything that improves the sterile game we have benefits us all as #modernfootballisrubbish

[Fosse69]

I am glad you are getting joy from an imaginable situation Chris, nout different there mate : )

 

I have been following St Pauli for over twenty years and watching them in Hamburg and all over Germnay for about 13 years. I know of at least forty or so Vale fans from all over the country travel to watch SP play so we're well represented.

 

 

I came about them at a BHA benefit (oh how the times have changed!) gig in 97 in a scout hut in Hove. A couple of coach loads of mainly St Pauli fans but others form other German clubs too had come to offer support in Brighton's hour of need. The German fans scene and solidarity for the common cause is something you don't see in British football still. They looked out for each other even though they supported different clubs. The German FSA is very powerful and has a lot of sway within the DFB.

 

I have met people from all clubs in the England and around the world standing on the terraces of the Millerntor all with a common mindset, which can be seen at most clubs across Germany including those on the fringe of the city following H$V.

 

The German model in general is one to aspire to, low prices, 49% ownership rule, beer on the terraces (yep standing), fan representation etc.

 

Many in the UK who adhere to the teeth sucking, 'Green Street' posturing of football detest SP because of their stance on many issues and their link with Celtic, which admittedly I don't get either. Ironically no PV/SP fan I know follows Celtic but the H$V lot adore Rangers for the obvious reasons. I know a few H$V fans over there who also support Altona 93 too, nice people.

 

Whether you have a soft spot for SP, H$V or any other German club their culture and what their fans have is something for all of us to aspire to.

 

Their links to Sjoke has no baring on anything, a very odd coupling but I will be in the away end when they visit the Sh*t-hole.

 

Anything that improves the sterile game we have benefits us all as #modernfootballisrubbish

How do Bayern Munich fit into this, they seem to have more funds than others?

[Birdy]

How do Bayern Munich fit into this, they seem to have more funds than others?

Dunno but their majority SH was doing porridge for tax evoidance. ST start at about €150. Every other club hates BM and Red Bull Leipzig. There are a couple of clubs who don't follow the 49% ruling and they are 'works' clubs founded be pre ruling; Leverkusen and I think Wolfsburg.

[Bea Smith]

JJ is bang on. We don't need some hippy getting on his soap box just because the ***** from down the road have ended up in some love in with them communists from Hamburg.

 

Brilliant Alan Partridge style irony post, more please.

[RailwayRowdy]

The brother of a friend of mine lives in Hamburg and says that St Pauli fans are Germany's answer to Millwall ! Maybe that's where the Stoke connection comes in !. When I was in Berlin 2 years ago I went to watch the cities poorer relations FC Union who, like SP play in Bundesliga 2. Seems I shall forever watch lower grade, but immensely more enjoyable football !

 

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[Regal Beagle]

It's nothing to do with where people live or where they came from, your post is trying to sow discontent and make Hamburg seem the club of choice for SOT based Vale fans. It isn't. Some support Hamburg, some st Pauii and that doesn't matter.

 

What dos matter is that Vale align themselves with anti-racist, ant-fascist, anti-homophobic and anti-sexist causes, as I am sure Hamburg do as well as St Pauli.

 

Bigots are the only enemy.

 

It's football. Whoever we play next, and Stoke. They are the 'enemies'

[nightmare in a damaged bra]

The brother of a friend of mine lives in Hamburg and says that St Pauli fans are Germany's answer to Millwall ! Maybe that's where the Stoke connection comes in !. When I was in Berlin 2 years ago I went to watch the cities poorer relations FC Union who, like SP play in Bundesliga 2. Seems I shall forever watch lower grade, but immensely more enjoyable football !

 

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I always found Rostock to be more like Millwall

[Valiant62]

I’d like to go to a St Pauli home game in Oct / Nov. Looking at the official site and other information, getting tickets guaranteed looks a nightmare.... anyone on here can pm me advice?