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It,s not Bills decision.

 

It's what's is in the best interest of the club and this seems a pretty good deal to me and many others.

Why some people can't see this and strive for the impossible is a mystery to me but let's face it you can't please all of the people all of the time.

Having said that some people will never be pleased at all whatever happens!

Because there are too many unknowns. Say there is a house mortgaged to the council for £2M, I pay the mortgage off, do I have a share in that house? or does it all belong to the sitting tenant? I improve the property, what benefit do I get? I put in a show lawn, people look at it and may order one. How many lawns do I have to sell in order to write off £2M plus? I would charge rent on that house, and sell back the house when I have sold enough lawns.

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The Supporters Club have a committee meeting on Monday whereby I will be reporting back to them from my talks with the Board and CEO that they are very suppportive of a fans Director being elected to the Board and he/she will not have to sign up to the usual Director's liabilities.

 

Obviously the sponsorship would be via the RW proxy if Mark Sims decides not to be elected.

 

We will discuss on Monday how the logistics of this would be implemented voting wise so that all fans are able to feel involved.

 

The Supporters Director would attend all aspects of a Board meeting with voting rights and not just be a representative.

 

I have already made it clear to the SC that I would not wish to be considered as I would be uncomfortable with standing for election when I am the proxy holder.

 

More news next week when, hopefully, Mark will have made his position clear.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Dave Felstead

Chairman

PVFC Supporters Club

 

DAVE,can you put my mind to rest,to your knowledge is there any rule that says an appointed director must take his/her place after a certain length of time or he/she loses their directorship,am asking this because if/when MARK steps up I don't want the board turning round and saying.... sorry your to late the time window as closed ...

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What about this for an idea?

 

If the board are unwilling to show Mark the books and Mark feels unable to comit without seeing them (if you have your own rules in business that have led to you being successful then best not to break them) then wait for them to allow a supporter without the financial obligations to join and then Mark Sims put himself forward - I bet you any money Lloyd would refuse, they don't want Sims anywhere near as he's too switched on, he'd see exactly how the club was being run.

 

Unless the SC rep/director was someone very experienced in business and accounts they'd run rings around them whilst claiming to be open

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With MO out of the frame I don't think MARK will join the board, hope am wrong ,just a thought ,is there a time scale to which he must or decline to step up as this could go on for years :unsure: ,it certainly feels like it , I expect there will be discontent on here if MARK decides not to join by the old guard, I personally will not be bothered one way or the other,as for someone to take his place ........ :unsure::unsure: ..

 

Spot on.....IMO Mark was Mo's right hand man and Mo's leverage into buying into the club. Mark never really wanted to be on the board and certainly not without Mo, yes the boards demands were a joke and any sane person would have declined a position but even if they were reasonable requests I personally think he would have declined. It would be nice if Simms did join the board but if he is the key to joining which he is for a number of people, why I don't know then we will remain where we are.

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So Mark Sims can now take up a position of Director and will not need to sign up for the usual Directors liabilities.....

 

but would not have a 'hand' vote, just inside info to pass on when the sc were considering how to use Robbies proxy

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So Mark Sims can now take up a position of Director and will not need to sign up for the usual Directors liabilities.....

 

who said that? I didn't.

 

Mark rightly seems unwilling to comit without seeing financial docs as he was prevented doing his due dilligence

 

IF and it's still a big IF, the board agree to an SC rep/director on the board without having to guarantee loans and debts I simply suggested Mark put hiself forward again

 

However, I'm 99% sure if he did the board would not want him as he'd run rings around them.

 

It was just a suggestion but lots of IFS before then for it to actually happen. That's all

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So a fans representative,sponsored by Robbie Williams,elected as a Director by the shareholders at the EGM is blocked from doing due dilligence....nobody is going to sign up for millions of pounds of debt without seeing the books first.....meanwhile Deakin and his mate have got the club on the cheap.....Mark Sims is an honest man and would be accountable to the fans no wonder they don't want him....it shouldn't be up to Lloyd and Deakin as Mark Sims was elected by the shareholders....it's a disgrace.

 

seems deakin and his mate have signed "up for millions of pounds of debt and got the club on the cheap" wish i had been given the oppo:rolleyes:rtunity

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For ****s realise Mark's a time waster he's had his chance vale have now moved on, even D.Felstead is broadly in favour of direction being taken.

 

My advice is enjoy the journey...... or does his opinion not count now he's not slating all that happens at vale?

 

I do love the way people suggest someone who has sponsored the Vale in excess of 250k are time wasters. If that's the case, bring on the time wasters!

 

GD, you've always been a useless *****, glad to see nothing has changed.

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What's with the Sims fetish? He never said he didn't join the board because he couldn't see the books. He made a few demands vis members of the current board leaving. The old board were trying to get him onto the board even pre Chaudry, but he didn't feel that was "the right time". So the new board are open to discussions, his demands wrt Bratt and Oliver have been satisfied and what do we get from MS. Silence? I also wonder if he is still a member of SEO (he was listed on the site last time I looked)? I know that this is not a popular opinion, but I think MS is a prat who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

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What's with the Sims fetish? He never said he didn't join the board because he couldn't see the books. He made a few demands vis members of the current board leaving. The old board were trying to get him onto the board even pre Chaudry, but he didn't feel that was "the right time". So the new board are open to discussions, his demands wrt Bratt and Oliver have been satisfied and what do we get from MS. Silence? I also wonder if he is still a member of SEO (he was listed on the site last time I looked)? I know that this is not a popular opinion, but I think MS is a prat who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

 

In your eyes, how much do you need to spend in sponsoring our ****ing football team before you would consider it "walking the walk"?

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For ****s realise Mark's a time waster he's had his chance vale have now moved on, even D.Felstead is broadly in favour of direction being taken.

 

My advice is enjoy the journey...... or does his opinion not count now he's not slating all that happens at vale?

 

" Time waster" You obviously know nothing........

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It's looking more and more likely that Mark Sims will not be joining the board. I and most others have not heard anything from him or read anything from him on O.V.F. for quite some time.

 

Mark was/is our hope for honesty and transparency. If he has rejected directorship are the fans and small share holders powerless to influence matters regarding the better future for P.V.F.C?

 

Is time to give up and just accept what the board and C.E.O. do with the club and get on with supporting the team?

 

Yes, yes & yes. :yes::yes::yes:

 

If Mark can't work with the existing board he should come out & say as much. Assuming that to be the case then I'm afraid people need to move & either support the new regime or take up another activity on Saturday afternoons.

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