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Owner/s of the bank of England is very 'iffy'. Rothchild did own the bank until 1946 when the government took over but had no money to pay for it... rather lengthy and complicated subject

 

As Nathan Rothschild now controlled the majority of the English bonds he could determine the price and therefore the supply of the English currency which gave him great power over the countries finances. As he famously said afterwards.

 

“I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.” - Nathan Rothschild

 

Privatisation of the bank continued for years until the bank of England was nationalised after the war in 1946.

 

However because the government was broke after the second world war they didn’t have enough money to buy out all the shareholders so instead they were issued with government stocks.

 

Although the government now earned money from any bank profits they also had to pay interest on any new stock they issued to pay for the shares they couldn’t buy back in the first place.

 

In 1977, the Bank set up a wholly owned subsidiary called BANK OF ENGLAND NOMINEES LIMITED, a private limited company with 2 of its 100 £1 shares issued. The objectives of the company are:

 

Read on Johnny, if you want to: http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2013/01/who-owns-the-bank-of-england/

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Indeed they are..more are not

 

It's also interesting that some food related practices allowed in the EU but currently banned in the US will become legal in the US

 

Although many councils throughout Europe are wanting to avoid TTIP can you see any advantages that it would bring to the working population in the U.K?

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Although many councils throughout Europe are wanting to avoid TTIP can you see any advantages that it would bring to the working population in the U.K?

 

yes

 

Us markets will be more easily accessible, us goods will become cheaper for uk workers to buy, uk companies will be able to make and sell in the us exact duplicates of products that are successul in the us as well as being able to sell what's available in europe..cheaper to produce so more sales, food practices allowed in the eu but not the us will be allowed in the us opening up us mkts to uk food products, ISDS will protect uk workers,

 

If it benefits small, medium and large uk businesses it benefits their uk employees and those uk employees that have investment in those businesses and it benefits uk consumers (many of whom are uk workers) by giving them access to cheaper us produced goods and services

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yes

 

Us markets will be more easily accessible, us goods will become cheaper for uk workers to buy, uk companies will be able to make and sell in the us exact duplicates of products that are successul in the us as well as being able to sell what's available in europe..cheaper to produce so more sales, food practices allowed in the eu but not the us will be allowed in the us opening up us mkts to uk food products, ISDS will protect uk workers,

 

If it benefits small, medium and large uk businesses it benefits their uk employees and those uk employees that have investment in those businesses and it benefits uk consumers (many of whom are uk workers) by giving them access to cheaper us produced goods and services

 

Why are China produced US brands more expensive here? Are not services the main target? Their health costs are more expensive than ours. My experience of the US is that making money for themselves is the purpose of TTIP as with the Pacific version. Why is it all being done in secret?

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GMO foods are plentiful in the U.S. Gmo foods have been proven by research to cause tumours. Some states are fighting for the GMO foods to be labled so that they can be avoided, but are finding it difficult to get this done. 90% of the worlds corn and maize is GMO and farmers are buying it to feed cattle.

I will not purchase any food stuff that comes from U.S.

 

There six points of concern written in the website below, but my main worry is that the U.S. will flood the U.K. with the poisonous GMO foods.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/what-is-ttip-and-six-reasons-why-the-answer-should-scare-you-9779688.html

 

TTIP’s ‘regulatory convergence’ agenda will seek to bring EU standards on food safety and the environment closer to those of the US. But US regulations are much less strict, with 70 per cent of all processed foods sold in US supermarkets now containing genetically modified ingredients. By contrast, the EU allows virtually no GM foods. The US also has far laxer restrictions on the use of pesticides. It also uses growth hormones in its beef which are restricted in Europe due to links to cancer. US farmers have tried to have these restrictions lifted repeatedly in the past through the World Trade Organisation and it is likely that they will use TTIP to do so again.

 

The same goes for the environment, where the EU’s REACH regulations are far tougher on potentially toxic substances. In Europe a company has to prove a substance is safe before it can be used; in the US the opposite is true: any substance can be used until it is proven unsafe. As an example, the EU currently bans 1,200 substances from use in cosmetics; the US just 12.

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GMO foods are plentiful in the U.S. Gmo foods have been proven by research to cause tumours. Some states are fighting for the GMO foods to be labled so that they can be avoided, but are finding it difficult to get this done. 90% of the worlds corn and maize is GMO and farmers are buying it to feed cattle.

I will not purchase any food stuff that comes from U.S.

 

There six points of concern written in the website below, but my main worry is that the U.S. will flood the U.K. with the poisonous GMO foods.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/what-is-ttip-and-six-reasons-why-the-answer-should-scare-you-9779688.html

 

TTIP’s ‘regulatory convergence’ agenda will seek to bring EU standards on food safety and the environment closer to those of the US. But US regulations are much less strict, with 70 per cent of all processed foods sold in US supermarkets now containing genetically modified ingredients. By contrast, the EU allows virtually no GM foods. The US also has far laxer restrictions on the use of pesticides. It also uses growth hormones in its beef which are restricted in Europe due to links to cancer. US farmers have tried to have these restrictions lifted repeatedly in the past through the World Trade Organisation and it is likely that they will use TTIP to do so again.

 

The same goes for the environment, where the EU’s REACH regulations are far tougher on potentially toxic substances. In Europe a company has to prove a substance is safe before it can be used; in the US the opposite is true: any substance can be used until it is proven unsafe. As an example, the EU currently bans 1,200 substances from use in cosmetics; the US just 12.

 

But profits come first.....2nd,,,, 3rd with these people, and if a few million get cancer, they'll produce a drug that will keep them alive, not cure them mind, just keep them paying for a couple more years.

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When it dared to halt the production of a gold mine, the government of Romania found itself facing a massive lawsuit from a corporate mining giant in a secret "court". There's nothing about the case that makes any sense – the corporation has said it may seek up to $4 billion in "compensation", which is half of Romania’s annual public healthcare budget.

 

How awful for Romania to be subject to such a corporate assault, you may think. However, under a controversial trade deal between the UK and America known as TTIP, such cases could become common in Britain. So why is our government one of the biggest cheerleaders of these "corporate courts"?

What's happening in Romania is a terrifying sign of what could happen if TTIP is passed. The corporate vampires are out for blood, and won't rest until they've drained a sovereign state of its money, and destroyed large parts of its land. The mining giant Gabriel Resources originally wanted to develop an enormous gold mine that would involve flattening four mountain tops. There were fears that this would would leave behind a behind a toxic waste lake containing dammed water and cyanide. But in 2014 a critical environmental document that was required for the project to go-ahead was annulled in a Romanian court. In the face of mass protests inside and outside the country, Romania’s parliament decided not to push through a law that would have allowed the project to continue.

 

Gabriel Resources has recently admitted that they've lost hope of ever building their mine. But at the same time they submitted a request for arbitration at the World Bank, demanding compensation for all the gold and silver that they were unable to extract. The company is using a Jersey subsidiary to bring the case, so it can make use of a UK-Romania investment deal, even though it's based in Canada. The company claims they have spent nearly $500 million on the project, yet in an interview the company’s CEO claimed he was seeking up to $4 billion in "compensation".

 

This is exactly the kind of case which that TTIP would promote throughout Europe. Through something called the Investor-State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) mechanism, foreign corporations get access to a secret arbitration system to sue governments for "damaging" their profits. These cases are taking place with an alarming frequency using a variety of existing trade deals, but TTIP would massively expand the possibility of this taking place. It would do this by allowing all US corporations to sue EU member states and all EU corporations to sue the US government.

 

The role corporate courts will play if TTIP is introduced has proven to be the most controversial aspect of the deal. Ninety-seven per cent of respondents to an EU consultation rejected the idea, while the EU parliament descended into farce when passing its opinion on TTIP in June, as the parliament’s president threw out the rule book to prevent a critical vote on the ISDS system. So toxic is TTIP, that the European Commission is considering rebranding ISDS as Investment Court Settlement as a means of undercutting the backlash.

 

Yet despite all of this, the British government is fully signed up to the corporate courts. Last year it signed a letter that made clear that the secret court system shouldn’t be removed from the trade deal under any circumstances.

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TTIP: France threatens to walk away from negotiations

 

 

MarvinTheAndroid

Cameron and his tory mates wholeheartedly support singing TTIP which is very clearly undermining democracy and it's impact on trade have been shown by a number report, including EU commission report, the the benefits on trade are predicted to be up to 0.5% of GDP over 10 years, ie to low to be detected. EU report also takes about substantial job losses.

Cameron and torys wants a referendum on EU membership because torys have campaigned that it undermines democracy and cost money. Yet torys and cameron are highly pro ttip which definatly will undermine democracy even more and will cost millions of jobs. Why does he want ttip ? Becasuse tory want to be able to make backroom deal in ISDS tribunals wit out any public scrutiny.

The top members of the torys are by definition traitors and we should open wing for them in one of the nastier sections of Broadmoor prison as the tower is big enough to hold them all ..

 

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61 days ago

sbkenn

Why is it only France that is threatening to scupper this deal ? It is undemocratic in the extreme. None of our governments should have even considered it. There ARE NO guarantees for commercial operations, and the citizens are the only ones who should matter, no one more that any other. Secret deals, secret courts, suing countries for changes in policy which benefit the people ... all are illegal, and IMO, treasonous.

 

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65 days ago

Dryden Cooper

The whole TTIP treaty is like the E.U. not open to democratic scrutiny.The system is topsy turvy for a start ,a Commission then council of ministers they enact laws.The only elected bit the parliament can amend or vote down but cannot propose legislation.

 

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66 days ago

Doc

Lack of transparency?

There's no transparency at all!

This is a stitch-up by Big Corporations to run the governments of Europe.

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Why are China produced US brands more expensive here? Are not services the main target? Their health costs are more expensive than ours. My experience of the US is that making money for themselves is the purpose of TTIP as with the Pacific version. Why is it all being done in secret?

 

China products more expensive here than in the uS? Cos our market is prepared/can afford to pay more?

 

Which health costs..is there a direct comparison available?

 

Businesses (as in Ltd cos. and PLCs ) exist to make money for their owners... of course they think TTIP will be good for business.....If it is it it's good for those employees of UK busineses too that take advantage..why does it have to be "good for business =- bad for UK workers"?

 

If it's all being done in secret how come we on here know so much about it? So much that some can categorically say it's a bad thing??

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GMO foods are plentiful in the U.S. Gmo foods have been proven by research to cause tumours. Some states are fighting for the GMO foods to be labled so that they can be avoided, but are finding it difficult to get this done. 90% of the worlds corn and maize is GMO and farmers are buying it to feed cattle.

I will not purchase any food stuff that comes from U.S.

 

There six points of concern written in the website below, but my main worry is that the U.S. will flood the U.K. with the poisonous GMO foods.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/what-is-ttip-and-six-reasons-why-the-answer-should-scare-you-9779688.html

 

TTIP’s ‘regulatory convergence’ agenda will seek to bring EU standards on food safety and the environment closer to those of the US. But US regulations are much less strict, with 70 per cent of all processed foods sold in US supermarkets now containing genetically modified ingredients. By contrast, the EU allows virtually no GM foods. The US also has far laxer restrictions on the use of pesticides. It also uses growth hormones in its beef which are restricted in Europe due to links to cancer. US farmers have tried to have these restrictions lifted repeatedly in the past through the World Trade Organisation and it is likely that they will use TTIP to do so again.

 

The same goes for the environment, where the EU’s REACH regulations are far tougher on potentially toxic substances. In Europe a company has to prove a substance is safe before it can be used; in the US the opposite is true: any substance can be used until it is proven unsafe. As an example, the EU currently bans 1,200 substances from use in cosmetics; the US just 12.

 

So do we KNOW that EU regulations will be (my words) "lightened" to allow all of this or do you fear that they will be? I see no roof In the link provided..all seems spectacularly biased and "unscientific"..but happy to be corrected

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