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We've heard so many of Rudgie's stories over the years, most of the Vale stuff, even down to the twice repeated "scout, cook and bottle washer" quote, isn't particularly revelatory now.
Also felt that Rudgie's disdain for Wenger came more from the co-author than the great man, as did the laughable quote about Stoke playing some of the most attractive football in the country under Pulis in the Premiership.
Felt weird when he held back on stuff. One bit in particular where he refuses to detail a revenge prank he pulls on Tiny Penis really made me wonder what he could have done that wasn't able to be published.
Also, FYI, "the whole city" did not get behind Sjoke when some bookies paid out early on them getting relegated.
On a positive note, I liked the couple of allusions to Aspin being a bit of a weirdo, although again this was glossed over in favour of kick-by-kick accounts of some boring Stoke games.
I don't like to be negative and I'm probably being a bit unfair and unrealistic in my expectations. I guess I'm relatively unusual in that I'd love to read several chapters just about Andy Porter, or a detailed breakdown on the signing and release of Oliver Heald. Even if not that, then a bit about John Rudge ' the man', rather than pages of I paid X and sold for y. Lots of this just reads like it was collated from wiki and old Sentinel reports. A shame really.
Finally, there's absolutely no excuse for the phrase 'the game was afoot' to be used twice.
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I thought there was a thread for this but can't find anything.
Anyway, just about to finish this and wondered what others thought. I genuinely love JR but am not so keen on the book. Partly this is due to me not wanting to read Rudgie's descriptions of his successes at Stoke (I'm surprised about how much this sticks in my craw) and also because I don't think the ghost writer really captures Sir John's voice very well. It's not very well written and a certain number of phrases are repeated to an annoying degree. It just doesn't feel like it's Rudgie at some stages. And I certainly don't want to hear about his "conduct, gentlemanly or otherwise" on his wedding night!
By their nature, football books can be quite formulaic and repetitive and I wish that this had been an exception. One of the things I love about JR is how he seems to be such a lovely human being and I don't think this comes across. There are a few bits that veer quite close to 'needless to say, I had the last laugh' territory.
There's a throwaway sentence near the end of the book where he says that the scariest agent he ever had to face during his time at Vale Park was Andy Porter's mum! I'd love to read more about this kind of thing and fewer long passages about results and transfer fees.
Having said that, I'm really glad I've read it as, well, it's Sir John and the money goes to the statue. Just wished it had come out in 1999.
One other thing I'm pondering is how many players have we signed from Manchester United? Alex Ferguson says that Rudgie was forever telling him sob stories and getting bargains from him but I can't recall more than a couple of their players coming here under JR?-
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Yes. Myself and Jonathan Gullis are both concerned about the optics for this as it certainly looks like rewarding criminality. What next? A knighthood for those people who flog knock-off DVDs on the market? The only thing Alfie should be looking forward to is an ASBO and a long stretch in a Young Offenders Institute. At the very least he should be facing an early bed with no supper. 😠
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I think there should be an option for keep AC but get rid of the DoF.
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1 hour ago, Guitar Ray said:
This definitely needs an emoji.
Here. 🥇
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2 hours ago, robf said:
I would agree with you in terms of seeing posts which I felt it was light hearted and weren't serious, but I would add some points.
These are designed to be helpful and (hopefully) not patronising... they are for everyone on here to take note of...
1) Sometimes sarcasm or irony doesn't work with typed words. It's good to re-read what you've posted and see if it does make sense.
2) There is an edit function if you don't think so. Perhaps more importantly there's emojis to use to show when you're not being entirely serious.
3) If you are unsure if it's going to be taken seriously or not then it's often better to err on the side of caution and not post something that might, just might cause offence - even if your intention is not to do so.
4) Myself or the moderators don't take these moves in isolation. Often the complaint hasn't originated from us. In some cases, it's communications from other users saying "that's not funny" or "that's not on" and we take their views onboard and act accordingly. It's then a subjective decision by us. If we're getting one complaint is that just one person who "doesn't get it" but if we're getting several complaints on something then it's an indication that quite a few users are upset. It may sound like killjoy behaviour at times but just remember we are a broad church and something which one group of users may find funny, another group of users may take offence to.
5) It's also a two-way street. If we remove something and you disagree, you can contact us to let us know. I will freely admit that I have certainly made moderation mistakes over the years.
6) Ultimately, we try to be fair to both sides.
I hope that gives some context and is of help. We're not trying to block all humour but not all humour works for everyone and if there are enough complaints then we will review and take appropriate action. It's not something done on the whim of a moderator and in isolation.
Well said Rob.
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6 hours ago, Fosse69 said:
Were Crosby or any of the players interviewed after the Burton match?
Not by Alfie, Carol saw to that!
Me, Jonathan Gullis and her were having a chuckle about it after the game yesterday, Gullo laughing as he said "He won't need a selfie stick where he's going!" Apparently, Suella is taking an active in the case. Watch this space... -
1 minute ago, princesslear said:
Will the same happen to all the clubs' fans that cover their football teams games then???
Hopefully all clubs have supporters as conscientious as myself who will report the criminal elements of the fanbase to the relevant authorities. To paraphrase Sir Keir Starmer (a man who I am sure detests these felons as much as I do), lets tear this poison out of our club by the roots.
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43 minutes ago, princesslear said:
Also why as it took a cpl of seasons for this to be a 'wrongdoing'??
Possibly the EFL weren't aware until I wrote to them, informing them of this boy consistently breaking Rule 17 of their Ground Regulations. I also raised numerous breaches of Rule 13 ( Nobody may stand in any seating area whilst play is in progress...) to no avail, but Jonathan Gullis has promised me he will raise this with them first thing on Monday. (Gullo was extremely keen to see Alfie brought to justice although that may be due to me telling him the lad was from Syria.)
As the saying goes, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Fortunately, Carol is a 'good man' and personally decided to intervene.
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5 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:
I blame the parents, they should know the law relating to copyright on YouTube. Not fair to put the blame on the lad
I get that but surely it's reasonable to expect a young boy to have a basic grasp of civil law and copyright infringement?
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2 hours ago, Packmoor_vale said:
Are you for <ovf censored> real?
Yes, completely. Why should this 7 year old feel that he can break the law with impunity?
Hopefully, Suella Braverman's brave proposals to reintroduce public floggings and the workhouse (if not scuppered by the woke) will mean that the likes of Alf and his family will get the comeuppance they deserve.
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33 minutes ago, Frank Mustard said:1 hour ago, Osh said:With Carol on the Board of the EFL I wonder if she could have a word and tell them to not be some bloody heavy handed.
How silly by them.There's only one party being silly here. The one breaking EFL broadcasting rules. Why so many people feel the need to turn into Poundland John Motsons on a matchday is beyond me. Just turn up and watch the bloddy match.
Exactly. You don't get Sam Matterface lording it up at Legoland or Clive Tyldesly hogging the swings and slides at his local playground, and it should cut both ways. Stay in your lane, Alfred.
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The lad gets on my nerves, precocious little brat. Well done EFL!
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10 hours ago, Doha said:
Gillingham sack Neil Harris, 1 point off 2nd place.
QuoteLeague Two club Gillingham have sacked manager Neil Harris after a run of three games without a win.
How <ovf censored> ridiculous.
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Nathan Jones ismaking quite the name for himself. Gutted he's not still across town.
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Saints fans not happy re Nathan Jones
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13 minutes ago, Santa said:
He was also critical of certain players and recruitment at the club but mocking any efforts to turn that around by putting on a Lancashire accent. Several times.
That got really tedious, as did "I'm not going to slag X off, he's one of my best mates, I love him, but X is <ovf censored> and I am better."
Also, slag off players like Theo if you like but at least he was available to play unlike you, Mr I-don't-give-a-<ovf censored>, who was suspended for shooting you mouth off online when we really bodies.
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Just now, toyahw said:
Point taken mate, sorry for the misunderstanding.
No worries.
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14 minutes ago, toyahw said:
Give the bloke a break. If Popey wants to watch Vale that is his business.
I'm not having a go at him about it! Saying I found it a bit of a tragic image is more of a reflection on the <ovf censored> nature of the divorce rather than a criticism of TP.
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If you think he logged on because he wanted to follow the Vale, to cheer on all those players and the management that he obviously feels so much for, you go for it.
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Yeah, of course. Sounds like he'd struggle to support us at the moment though.
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I found the image of Pope logging on to iFollow to watch the Tranmere game quite a tragic one, and I don't particularly like the guy. Reminds me a bit of the stories about Shankly (I think) having to be asked to stay away from the training pitches when he'd stop being employed by the club.
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He's fond of criticising fellow pros, isn't he?
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To Cap It All - John Rudge Autobiography
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Just saw Bernie Slaven has said he'll buy a copy of the book when he comes down for the 'boro quarter final. Wonder what he'll think about the book's claim that Rudgie "had to move him on because he'd become far too pally [with Peter Swan] and disruptive."