andy jones

I agree about earning your own luck mate but Rick O'Shay hasn't favoured us with his presence this season other than for the opposition!

I just want us to have the run of the green and some luck and decisions go our way.

The performance last night was very disheartening. Somehow Moore has to get a turn out of this disjointed and demoralised squad not once, not twice but three times in our remaining home games. He will deserve Manager of the season if our heads are still above water at the end of this season. Personally I don't want to see Ripleyrolla ball out to Smith or Uncle Cobbley ever again. The insanity of trying to play the Man City way with footballers who are clinging to league 1 football shows the inmates have escaped the asylum!

First off ... they paid well over the odds to keep our club in existence and no an alternative Fairy Godmother was not standing in the wings. Secondly ... in addition to buying the club the Shanahan's provided the finance to take us into league 1. Thirdly ... the investment to ensure the club could and can play at Vale Park has been £11M Finally Someone who put nothing into Vale and took everything out ... Flitcroft is the culprit and Carol's mistake was to Trust him. Perhaps we need to show support not belittle.

Think that's bit pathetic Stamford. When we have an owner who, for the very first time in my memory (1957 started watching) who has actually invested in the club rather than shafting it that is poor mate. £11,000,000 is it at the last count? If it was me and you were a typical fan I would just say 'uk you'. Are you going to fill the gap? The Shanahan's (particularly Carol) deserve our support at the minute IMHO

How much cheaper does this offer make it. Not exactly Christmas is it?

Strange how Sjoke's match mirrored ours. Only difference is they will definitely be in their league again next season and we won't be in ours.

Longport Oatcakes are the only Premier league outfit we will ever see in the Potteries!

I think we are all getting addled as to how the xxx we are in this mire in the first place!

So loyal fans who paid for their tickets early pay full price, but glory seekers who want to see the cup winners get there's for half price? Let's hope we send them all home disappointed. Darren Moore's tactics remind me a lot of Micky Adams. Get tight at the back and work from there.

One thing that I think is in our favour and that's who has the best Manager when comparing their careers.

Sorry can't agree with that. We failed to win in goodness knows how many games when DC came in. We were saying where's the new Manager bounce. In fact the first win under DC wasn't until the match after Andy Crosby joined the club. So perhaps it's AC we should thank for ending the long wait for a win when DC became Manager?

Perhaps you need to take into account off the pitch costs. Half a million on the pitch was it? I am not saying the footballing budget was well spent. But I would question your comment the total purse has been tightened.

Although Cheltenham have games that look winnable at home I am hopeful that our games at Peterborough and Bolton may see them safely in the play offs with no chance of automatics. Our other games are against sides with no ambition of play offs or relegation. We can but hope!

Be just our luck for Wilson and Garrity to be out with their injuries. Plus is it asking too much for a young prospect to turn it on again for another 90 minutes?

Not according to people who know him BTW.

I see it that we have 21 points up for grabs and its up to us to gain 12 of them. I think 50 points minimum will be needed this season.

Pressure will be on them more perhaps being at home?

After tonight's news ... Sell out on Saturday. Players rejuvenated Luck goes our way We win!

I think you are way off the mark. IMHO we have a superb owner and to just say 'sell up and go' is hugely insulting to the person who has ... Saved our club from extinction ... it was a queue of 1. Spent over £10M on the infrastructure and purchase. Made PVFC into one of the most community respected clubs in football. Comments like that say to me you have no understanding of the 'low life' (putting it mildly) the fans have had to oust from the club this past decade or more. I for one would choose relegation this season but retain a brilliant owner to putting the club up for sale and repeating the circle of arseholes who have owned PVFC previously.

League 2 won't be the place for our talented kids to show their quality.

I am hoping they switch their home games to clash with Stoke rather than Vale, as at present. There's going to be even more rich pickings from disillusioned Sjokies!!

Not a name known to many OVF posters I suspect. But whilst being Head of Academy Coach & Player Development at the Vale Josh also has a second job as Manager of Leek Town FC and 'his' team are the antithesis of PVFC first team results wise. Whilst we are busy getting ourselves relegated Leek Town have, since a 5-0 drubbing that saw Josh take over as Manager, won 15 drawn 2 lost 0 in the league. This fantastic run now sees Leek Town comfortably top of the league and if results go their way on Saturday will see them win the league and take the one automatic promotion spot to Step 3 of the non league pyramid. Just three more promotions to league 2 may seem a task beyond them, but, on average gates of around 500-600 , I hope you will agree it's an amazing success story. So, congratulations to you Josh and Leek Town FC. Look forward to you taking on the likes of Macclesfield and FC United of Manchester next season if i am not mistaken.

Vale have tweeted its a 358 miles round trip tonight. It should be half that for Flitcroft !!

Sing their delilah back with ... Why why why d'you bother There is a full song but will have to ask other Vale fans to give you the full version as I am in the pub and inebriated with hope that we can finally win a game tomorrow!