MiddleportValiant

A Manager is paid to get the best results that they possibly can, whatever industry that you work in. And in the Football industry you're paid quite well to do that, Moore for me isn't worth the 5 year deal nor the wages that'll be going on his bank. 2 wins out of 15 is utter sh**e. Whatever way you look at it. Granted they aren't his players but listen listen his post match interviews, that wouldn't inspire my dog to f****** run around. And he's zooming at walkies😅. I can't see us getting rid of him but I think the best thing for Port Vale is a complete revamp of the infrastructure of the club, what's that going to cost I don't know. I just don't think that Moore is up for it personally, complete lack of personality and fight.

One of the poorest 2nd halves I've ever witnessed in 23 years of supporting the Vale. It's starting to really hurt now. I had hope until today. Ultimately but a few weeks can't wash away a year and a half of neglect and bad decisions. This unfortunately doesn't just fall on the departed Flitcroft but also Carol who as an owner should forsee her plan or in other words her INVESTMENT crumbling before her eyes. You got away with it by the skin of your teeth last year, this year you've managed to outdo yourself and leave it too late to sack the DoF who survived 3 managers up until his departure. Furthermore Darren Moore. Is he the man to take us forward when the inevitable happens? A win % of 15 says otherwise, considering we gave him the 5 year deal, which again brings me to Carol, who must have had some say in this decision. It reeks of softness which pretty much sums up our season. Kind and soft and rolling over none of which should be associated with my beloved Port Vale FC.

Do you think there could be players that read this site? Not even joking... I said before this game following Burton we will see today who wants it and each and every one of them wants it and has a hunger and desire for it. I may have had a drink...

We are about to see how bad this team really want it. Take the passion and the togetherness into any game as we did with Burton and we stand a chance. As long as they turn up and try their damn best now, that's all I want. Shows really how poor its been. All eyes will be on Loft today, he should have some confidence in himself from last week and good on him for getting that goal. Really is the hope that kills you isn't it? I'm going 1-0 Vale, Loft to score a tap in.

Best Post on here in months. Agree with everything except he should have been sacked December 31st. So we could have had a good go at the Jan transfer window. Maybe she didn't want to spoil his Christmas holidays?

'and we thank Dave for the time he has spent at Vale Park.' No we don't.

Good riddance - his position became untenable whether sacked or resigned we can look to rebuild now. He survived up to 3 managers in 2 years and you could argue 3 windows I say 3 because the summer, although some quality was recruited I.e Ripley he failed to address key positions in his ideology of how he wanted Port Vale to play football that's the wingbacks and a solid Striker, I'm sorry but if we had fulfilled them positions I'm not saying we would be world beaters but we'd certainly be higher and we'd look a lot better if we kept Pett and he somehow perhaps persuaded a Hall to stay (granted i know that his issue was location, but money talks, and Vale are a poorer side without him.) With the exception of Arblaster and Devine we seem to have opted and relied heavily on young loan players and you just can't get away with that, there has been no spine to this team and if we still insist on playing this way in the summer I'd say whoever is in charge of recruiting players has to and it is critical to address these 3 positions. Which brings me to my next question...Do we really need a DOF?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaahhahahahaha. Okay I'll stop laughing now. If you're joking that's got me in tears- if you're serious that's still got me in tears. A massive whopping 1 appearance between them and a sh** 1 at that it's about as smooth as 20 minute drive on the m6 on a Friday evening on the way back from work. F******, stand still.

Gutless. Spineless. Heartless. Take what you want from that but that is my 3 words. When a young lad steps up to give us but a glimmer of hope of 3 points says says it all. David Flitcroft you have left a squad of players totally out of depth and inept of understanding the core values of the hardworking working class people who come and watch this team. This team fights for nothing and I repeat that nothing, but it's okay for them, they'll still get their salary But what about us? Remember that team during out promotion season? Were we the highest scorers in that division? No. Did we perhaps have the best defensive record in that division? No. Were we the best team in that division? - No. Did we have the players with heart and desire to play for the badge? Oh yes. I'll never forget Hartlepool away where we had to really grind for a result and every man and their dog in who represented Port Vale our club come out to the fans and give us recognition and celebrated - I knew then it was our time. That's the complete difference with our promotion team and this team. There is no desire no heart no commitment to the average Joe fan the promotion team but their bodies and heart on the line for their goals and even though at times the goals seem hard or unreachable they never gave up. Case in point our day at Wembley. Take all the fight spirit and togetherness out of the team that went up was there enough quality? Perhaps but I am not sure. That can be the difference but I am convinced these players do not give a sh** after today's results and that opinion will stand until the inevitable happens and we end up with the dreaded R against our name.

I get what you're saying, but players come and go the fans will be here forever.

Call a spade a spade. The players are f****** poor, ain't even saying she should go but the constant asking for the fans to support this dross is getting old everytime we have been asked to show in numbers to be the 12th man the fans have delivered, yet the players haven't turned up. I'd rather someone acknowledge this is sh** than lie and say the players are phenomenal when they trot around and can't even mark a centre half on a corner. As I say no I don't want Carol out but there has to be some acknowledgement that this is nowhere near good enough.

Can't blame Moore. Nobody would fix this mess. There is a much bigger problem at our club than the manager, he's the human shield from Flitcroft. Who will probably get the sack thus making it 3 managers reigns than Flitcroft survives.

Regardless of flitcroft though he is the man responsible, sometimes within 90 minutes of football Side A's 11 just isn't good enough compared to Side B. It's that black and white. (Pardon the pun) If we want to stay up, we've got to be winning sides like this, if we don't win today we are down it's that simple. Benning with an assist is a proper kick in the teeth shows perhaps one of the many features we are missing? An out an out /wing back he'd 100% get in this team for me.

Oh I agree, we can all see that I just wish someone at the club would say it how it is, rather than the notion that everything is okay, flitcroft wasn't thinking of relegation remember 😅

I hope so mate, I just want somebody to own up to this mess. Have the players downed tools? Is a budget problem? I think we can all agree flitcrofts a problem so for me his fate is sealed in regards to the fans no matter what happens. I just wish somebody would call a spade a spade at the club and show abit of fight and desire to address and fix the situation. Hopefully in time that becomes Moore I'd love him to come and out and call every out the real reason behind this mess. He's been dealt a <ovf censored> hand yes but any man and their dog will take a 5 year contract in their game.