Rory

No excuse not to have kicked on! We finished 18th last year, do you expect us to be a lot higher than that? How many years is it until you expect us to be in the Champions League? Expectation seems out of control which is probably partly be down to the club PR machine. Some of the stuff on here recently is bonkers.

I disagree. I used to be a moron, now I'm sensible. We can't expect to finish 14th in League One. It is a lot to ask to expect to overacheive year after year, we can hope for it but we can't expect it. When we're at this level, as things stand, we will have seasons where we struggle and some of those will end up with us relegated. It might happen this year, if it doesn't it will happen another year. That's football and that's Port Vale.

If everyone expects us to be soaring high in League One, as they seem to, then surely promotion from League Two has to be a banker?

Either I'm going mad or everyone else is. I'm worried it's me. Am I mad?

That's football for you. I think we're better off without Smurthwaite, the club has come/is coming on leaps and bounds from those dark days. I would like us to finish higher up this league again, top half even, but I certainly don't expect it at the moment. Being in League One is achieving, I hope we can survive for at least another year and have another go at it. That day at Fleetwood was one of the lowest points of my life and that was a day that I was lucky to come through unscathed. I think it damaged me immeasurably. It felt to me like Port Vale was dying back then, whereas now our future is bright.I am also a more content with life generally which has an impact on how I view things. I have come to terms with the fact that I am a nobody, that I always will be, and that my life is completely pointless and I am so much happier for it.

It will be a disappointing season but I think we have expect that we're likely to be in and around the relegation mix in this league at the moment unless we overachieve, which is what we should be aspiring to do. Last season we did well. According to Matt Hancock in his Baggers interview our income streams put us below League One. The furore about us struggling in this league just seems a bit over the top, it is hardly outrageous. I think the club are doing a lot of good things and we'll hope to reap the rewards in the medium to long term. Things are getting better. There's a lot that's not perfect, we've made mistakes with recruitment (but I think it has been generally decent under the regime), I think we've now made a mistake with our new manager, and I think it's a mistake to not look at least look at a new ground and get away from the neverending money pit that is Vale Park. I think we just need to be a bit more realistic. The reaction is as though we're heading to non league, I could understand it a bit more if that were the case. I have tried to understand why people are quite so angry about our director of football but I just find it difficult. I'm sorry if I am a bad man for feeling this way but I can't help it.

They must be ready to kill their directors if our fans are anything to go by.

We have more of a chance of getting an Arblaster or Devine now that we're a sensible football club trying to do things properly. Improving and maintaining the pitch and facilities will help. We used to be a complete shambles of a football club owned/ran by con men but we're not in that place anymore. I really think we should have looked at getting a new ground though, there must have been a way.

DC is a great man. Superb. Up the Dazzler.

Vale were rubbish. I think the players might still be sulking about Crosby, but they need to snap out of it. It does make you wonder.

Come on, Crosby died for this rubbish.

It was a mixture of gibberish and tripe.

I just think Darren Moore might be a duffer.

Always remember we're Port Vale. We're outperforming our budget, apparently. Is struggling in League One bad on the face of it for Port Vale? Not really. Flitcroft has made mistakes but overall he's done a decent enough job so far. I do worry that he has made a mistake trusting Darren Moore with our football team though.

Michael Smith and Mark Biereth are two of them. Good listen, Flickers is great. Super David Flitcroft!

Super David Flitcroft!

Cocks lol.

He'd better do a good job, we have missed out on Bonner for this. Good luck, Darren Moore.

For a pint or a fight?

Super Bonner!

0-0 at best.

I am Rory I am here! Let's get Bonner and have a beer! On on.

Just because, even with all of the things that conspired against him, we were still in the hunt for survival and not even in the relegation zone - with games in hand too. I think it's harsh to say Crosby was doing a bad job.

Bonner took bottom half League Two Cambridge United to League One and kept them up. He got sacked with them in 18th place in League One which seems incredibly harsh, considering he was in charge of Cambridge United. Similar to the harsh treatment of Crosby at Port Vale. Their fans were upset and hold him in high regard and he is a good man too.

Bugger Moore off, let's go Bonner!