valefan79

Really can't believe it is 35 years ago today when the Hillsborough disaster happened. I still remember that day so well being a 10 year-old at Chesterfield watching Vale win 2 - 1 in the promotion season and taking a radio to listen to my other team take on Forest in the FA Cup Semi Final and left in a state of shock as to what had happened. I still remember the journey back to Stoke and never known a journey home be so quiet as to that one. I know stadiums now can often be souless and there be no atmosphere but at least we know we are safe there, think back to the grounds when I first started going, they were disasters waiting to happen.

Very late decision made, always get my tickets in advance from the Vale but will be unable to do that. If I order online, I take it I can pick up from the Peterborough ticket office tomorrow before the game.

He has been on the field in the league for 1569 minutes which across the 41 games works out at an average of 38 minutes, it's a definite no to any kind of contract for me, we are going to struggle to get rid of Loft, we can't go into a season with Loft and Wilson again.

He's completed the 90 minutes 5 times this season.

Why would you want that, surely we need Wycombe to get a result next Saturday at Shrewsbury.

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A lot depends on results in the next 2 weeks, as Spunk quoted football not played on paper, looks tough for them but we need Lincoln still in with a shout of the play-offs and avoiding defeat at Oxford next week, if they were to lose there, could end up not been able to get in the play-offs by the time they play Cheltenham. Similar if Peterborough have no chance of automatic, 3 days before the end of the season likely to make lots of changes, any players carrying niggles or big players, they be stupid to risk. Stevenage whilst looking nailed on for a play-off spot most of the season have fallen off a cliff last few weeks and will have no chance of a top 6 come the last day. We have to take care of our results and minimum is 3 home wins.

You're right about Moore,done a great job defensively and turned us into a side that has stopped conceding goals which I did not think was possible. I just felt today the game was there for the winning and with a bit more belief, we could have got the 3 points and that would have put massive pressure on Cheltenham going into their Carlisle home game knowing they would have been behind us regardless of how they did. Special mention to Smith again today, been played out of position so many times this season as the RCB and even LCB but playing in his natural position the last 5/6 games he has been superb. I am not a big Uche fan and don't see him getting the goals but think he is ready to start the next game and hopefully scare Peterborough into some mistakes.

We can't keep him for another season, I don't get this pay as you play, he is taking up the space of another player, every team should have 4 strikers on the books. With Wilson you are then restricting yourself to 3 and a half as you know he will be out for more than half. For too long we have carried out players who are injury prone, I hope next season is different, I am sorry but 8 goals in 2 seasons for a striker is not enough.

I personally would take now being within 2 points of Cambridge playing them last game, I know keep saying it but looking at Cheltenham's next 3 games and we are relying on them dropping points against an already relegated Carlisle, Burton who are woeful or a Bristol Rovers who have given up and not scored for over 500 minutes. For me that was 2 points dropped today, I really thought they were there for the taking and Northampton and Wigan away, 1 point and no goals scored is a poor return, I honestly felt we would win one of those games. It puts so much pressure on the home games, we have to win all 3 and we need clean sheets to do this as the goals are not there.

I'm not sure I agree with this Cheltenham are out of form that people have been saying, they have had 15 points from the last 11 games, nearly 1.5 points a game. In the last 4, they had a bad result on Saturday against Exeter but had a couple of awful penalty decisions go against them, won away to a Fleetwood side who battered us for one a half games, got a point away to Barnsley and concded an 88th minute winner away to Oxford, they are battling like anything. In the next 4 they have Orient, Bristol Rovers and Burton, all for me very winnable, we have just taken 7 points from those games, none of those 3 looked any good,on top of that a game against Carlisle at home, I hope I am wrong but feel Cheltenham will get a good points tally. We have to gain 10 points minimum to have any hope I feel. I thought Cambridge were in the mix until those last 2 results, for me Saturday is huge and we have to get something, I do think Burton will go, they had nothing when we played then, think a shoot-out between us and Cheltenham for that one spot.

Definitely between the 3 of us fighting for 2 spots, thought Cheltenham would win today but can see in their next 4 games, them winning 3, they have Carlisle and Bristol Rovers at home who are dreadful lately and a Orient side on the beach and a woeful Burton away, minimum we need is 4 wins, can see us finishing ahead of Burton but think Cheltenham will send us down.

I said after one of the games last month, we should be playing the kids as they won't do any worse and we are already down. For me, they are miles away from being football league ready and I include league 2 ready next year. The likes of Shorrock, Dippepa, Lomax need to be going out on loan to the National League North early next season and then hopefully come back ready. The only one I could see that might be ready is Walters but maybe he doesn't want to be here anyway.

I'm one of those crazy fans that will be there on Tuesday, must be mad for going. I can't see anything other than a defeat by 2 goals but for what it is worth my team, no idea who is fit and able to play but would be; Ripley Debrah Kasper Yak Clarke Mighten Garrity Walters Plant Chislett Wilson I would give young Reece another chance, he might not be ready but he for me is still the one out of the younger players who has shown the most.

Disagree, under previous regimes this was the right way to go about it as the money was being pocketed by the likes of Smurthwaite. We now have owners who are not the issue, I will have the occasional moan about them but we all know what the problem is. He has to be removed from this club and continued protests about him is the only way for him to go. I dont feel starving the club of finances is the way forward.

Jean, no doubting you and everyone else who attended that meeting are all massive genuine supporters but surely you must agree that there has to be a public forum open to everyone and for this to be arranged before the end of the month.

It's the modern game Jean, it is compulsory for all 92 league clubs to do this, think it is in every coaching manual now. As someone who watches a lot of football in the Premier League, everyone is the same. I have said for years, leave 3 on the half-way line, they have to leave 4 back. Ripley will now command his area but at times, too many players back and too many to go through.

Feel like repeating myself week in week out but nothing ever changes. People keep saying each game a massive 6 pointer, when are these folk going to learn that we are down and have been for weeks. Still walking up Hamil Road after the game, I had to laugh when I heard two old gentlemen say if we can win 2 on the bounce we are back in it. We will not win another game this season, I said after Fleetwood away, we might get a record low points tally for a season 36 and I maintain that. Smith cost us yet again, 2 home games running now, Devine was right all along about Smith. Chislett massively overrated but the decision to bench him and again Mighten in favour of Massey in baffling. Shrewsbury are a very poor side but did the basics better than us, our relegation won't be on Moore but my god the football is dire so far under him, did not expect Brazil football but this has so far been very worrying.

2 nil Shrewsbury, no shots on target again, no strikers no hope.

Said a few weeks back I think we might get our lowest ever points tally and I still maintain that, 36 is the lowest with 3 points for a win in 1999/2000.

Playing these bunch of gutless, pathetic, spineless players that we have will pretty much guarantee relegation to the National League as well, other than Ripley and Garrity.

Another awful depressing day other than a couple of great pubs found about half an hour away from the ground, just wished we had stayed in there. Just glad the season is soon coming to an end as we are getting worse with every passing week, keep saying the same things but we have no fight at all and players out there going through the motions. I don't like calling players out but Ojo is massively overrated by so many people, he offers nothing at all and was pulling out of challenges. I was not going to go to all the games left but fear it will be a long time before we get to go the likes of Derby, Wigan and Bolton again, we are going to be scrapping for survival in league 2 with this bunch of players. I moaned about Crosby and thought things could not be worse but it is no better at all. I did not expect miracles but expected fight, we have nothing at all.

I've seen some bizarre posts but Fleetwood on a par with Middlesbrough is right up there. The reason for the booing and quite rightly was that we were gutless and pathetic in that second half. If you decide to sit back and invite pressure and allow the opposition to have all of the ball and show no ambition to get it back and when you do to try and play the ball forward, you are asking for trouble. Fleetwood will be going down with us, they will get a couple of wins and finish above us but we can have a nice trip to them next season I have no doubt about that.

Most of the time I would leave a game like that deflated and angry but as I have said numerous times, already resigned myself to league 2 football next season. We have a truly awful side, no character, no fight, bunch of players who are not likeable apart from Ripley and Garrity. That second half performance was one of the worst I can ever remember, I slated Crosby after the Stevenage cup replay but this was way worse than that. I have no idea what the team talk was but my word, we were battered. I said with 10 minutes to go, even at 2 nil we would lose by 6 playing like that at Derby. We literally had 1 attack in the whole half, it was embarassing. Moore was my choice to be manager and it won't be on him if we go down but these 4 games have been shocking and I did not expect free flowing football but if that is what we need to get used to, negative changes, being battered by a bottom 2 team at home, it will be a tough watch. We have gone from a manager who wants 70% possession to a manager who seems happy to have hardly any of the ball.

You can add the likes of Peterborough, Bolton, Oxford into games we won't get anything from, that would leave 9 games left to get 6 wins, not a chance.