Guitar Ray

Have you read what I’ve said? I’ve agreed with you. The point is that some fans will not renew and some of those fans will no doubt come on here next season and say Carol should sell up because she hasn’t got the wealth to progress the club. Basically saying they’re not investing their own money but want Carol to invest hers, which is pure hypocrisy.

Hard to argue about any of this, but it’s not reason enough for some fans to give up their ST, and neither is relegation. I have no problem with fans who take the opposite view and hold onto their money. The only thing I would say to those fans is don’t then come on here and say there’s a lack of investment as that would be pure hypocrisy.

All managers accept that though, it goes with the turf. We’ve got enough money to bin off a manager and 3 or 4 staff and recruit another, who’s a far bigger “name”, and his entourage, who are likely to cost big £££’s. It’s not lack of money it’s spending that money unwisely which appears to be the problem.

At the moment fans realise the need to back the team, evidenced by the great vocal support again today. Highly likely there’ll come a point in time when relegation is confirmed and being “passive and nice” will go out of the window.

This may be true, although I think the DoF model takes most of the responsibility away from the coach/manager. In our own case, the DoF is widely quoted as stipulating the style of play and recruiting players supposedly suited for that style, so just how much influence Crosby had is open to speculation. Whatever the truth, the main issue is the positions we haven’t filled rather than the positions we have. I firmly believe that the current squad would be safely out of the relegation zone with Crosby in charge if we had 2 League 1 level strikers and a decent option at LWB/LB.

We’ll definitely renew ours. Good times bad times and all that.

Have you got a bet on with somebody, the number of times you can type “Fraudcroft” in a day, or is it just about exceeding your own personal targets and goals? Well done by the way, either way it’s a high bar you’ve set yourself. 👏🏻

Indeed. I’ll admit to using a degree of artistic license, it was supposed to be a sales pitch and I thought “jump aboard the roller coaster and look down helplessly as the wheels come off”, whilst accurate, was a bit strong. 🙄

“Thinking twice”? Come on, jump aboard the roller coaster. Experience the highs and lows first hand. 👍🏻 Edit: Sorry, that last sentence should read “lows and highs”…..in order of probability.

I’ll go out on a limb here and say the attempt was that of a player with zero confidence. He had too much time to think about the finish and ended up ballsing it up. Anyone who’s played football will know the feeling.

So not only are you failing to recognise the state we were in and the main reason the Shanahans, you’ve also forgotten Kevin, bought the club but you also believe Flitcroft is her “toy boy”? I think what’s happening here is that you’re pulling your own wool over your own eyes dreamer.

You believe what you want. 👍🏻

When you say what could be in it for themselves I guess you mean a £10 million hole in their pockets and a load of grief off some numpties who will never be grateful.

It’s not about being “nice”. We were in a dire situation which the Shanahans felt they needed to do something about first and foremost to preserve the club. The rest of it, off field plans for the local community was secondary in their minds.

Jacko just up the thread.

Already been mentioned, it was to take the club out of Sexmans hands. Were you around at that time, or just simply forgot the situation we were in?

I think you’ll be better off going with your big coat, hat, scarf, gloves, thermals and hot water bottle rather than something that sounds like an old blues singer. 👍🏻

Spot on. I also thought their goal celebration was completely OTT. It was pretty much a tap into an unguarded net, celebrated as though it was a 40 yard match winner at Wembley. Shame Ted wasn’t there to chase their player off.

Fix the mistakes, get a few more shots off. Easy. Not sure why 3 different managers haven’t seen it.

Carol is a fan like rest of us so she won’t be chucking the towel in cuz the going’s got a bit tough……although some fans on here are chucking the towel in, so maybe she will. 🤔

I’m obviously one of the <ovf censored> because I can’t see how sacking managers off on the back of what is essentially poor recruitment is financially prudent, or shows any long term planning. In fact sacking managers at a point in the season where the new incumbent can’t recruit players shows no planning whatsoever. I also can’t see how repeatedly recruiting a squad totally bereft of goals will engage the fans in any way. It’s hard to compute, for me at least, how relegation will increase ticket sales or bring in more revenue. As for sustainability, are you telling me that all those “new” season ticket holders we picked up after promotion will be renewing if we’re relegated? Much of what you say in your post has been wrecked by decisions made presumably by David Flitcroft our DoF.

Congratulations! The fact that I’m a thicko is the only thing you’ve ever got right on this forum, so well done on that score chump. Meanwhile I’m still waiting for your answer to that simple question I asked days ago.…..

Good evening. I’ll take this as an admission the you were wrong to start your poll on the grounds that it’s badly timed and could have a negative impact on our relegation fight.

Moore seems to rule that out in his pre match interview in my opinion.

What’s hard to see? It’s a money pit. Most sensible people with a wad of cash have enough sense to steer clear of football club ownership. Beyond that there’s a few spivs, some ego trippers and a few mega rich with money to burn. Speak to fans of a top tier club like Man U and see what they say about owners.