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Guitar Ray

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  1. 11 hours ago, PVFC FAN said:

    The plan:

    (Made simple for <ovf censored> heads)

     

    Running a football club with limited financial resources requires careful planning, strategic decision-making, and a focus on long term sustainability. Here are some key principles that such a club should consider lads:

     

    1. Financial prudence:The club should prioritize financial stability above short-term success. This means avoiding excessive spending on player wages and transfer fees that could lead to financial strain. Implementing strict budgeting and financial controls is essential to ensure that the club operates within its means.

     

    2. Investing in youth development: Developing a strong youth academy can be a cost-effective way to nurture homegrown talent and provide a pipeline of players for the first team. By investing in youth development programs, the club can reduce reliance on expensive transfers and build a strong foundation for the future.

     

    3. Scouting and recruitment: Instead of competing for high priced signings in the transfer market, the club should focus on scouting and recruiting talented players with potential. This requires a robust scouting network and a thorough analysis of player performance and potential. Signing players on free transfers or loan deals can also be a cost effective strategy.

     

    4. Maximizing revenue streams: While the club may not have the financial resources of larger clubs, it can still explore opportunities to maximize revenue streams. This could include increasing ticket sales through affordable pricing, securing sponsorship deals with local businesses and leveraging digital and merchandising opportunities to engage fan and generate additional income.

     

    5. Community engagement: Building strong ties with the local community can provide valuable support and resources for the club. This could involve hosting community events, engaging with local schools and youth organizations, and partnering with local busineses to promote the club and its activities. A loyal and engaged fan base can provide crucial support, both financially and emotionally, during challenging times.

     

    6. Long term planning: The club should adopt a strategic approach to planning, with clear short-term and long-term objectives. This includes setting realistic targets for on field performance, financial sustainability, and infrastructure development. By establishing a clear vision and direction, the club can make informed decisions that support its overall goals.

     

    Overall, running a football club with limited financial resources requires a combination of prudent financial management, strategic planning, and a focus on building strong relationships with fans and the local comunity. By prioritizing sustainability and investin in the development of homegrown talent, such a club can overcome financial challenges and thrive in the long term etc etc etc.

    I imagine this is what df is going for. 

    Lets put it simple, he isnt there yet.

     

    I’m obviously one of the <ovf censored> because I can’t see how sacking managers off on the back of what is essentially poor recruitment is financially prudent, or shows any long term planning.  In fact sacking managers at a point in the season where the new incumbent can’t recruit players shows no planning whatsoever.  I also can’t see how repeatedly recruiting a squad totally bereft of goals will engage the fans in any way.  It’s hard to compute, for me at least, how relegation will increase ticket sales or bring in more revenue.  As for sustainability, are you telling me that all those “new” season ticket holders we picked up after promotion will be renewing if we’re relegated?  Much of what you say in your post has been wrecked by decisions made presumably by David Flitcroft our DoF.

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  2. On 24/02/2024 at 17:20, Brian Johnson said:

    Please, nobody have a go at Flitcroft until the end of the season or else that thicko @Guitar Ray will be coming after you

    Flickers Out!

    Congratulations!  The fact that I’m a thicko is the only thing you’ve ever got right on this forum, so well done on that score chump.  Meanwhile I’m still waiting for your answer to that simple question I asked days ago.…..

  3. 1 minute ago, Brian Johnson said:

     

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    Good evening.  I’ll take this as an admission the you were wrong to start your poll on the grounds that it’s badly timed and could have a negative impact on our relegation fight. 

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  4. Just now, TJHValiant said:

    Selling up always depends who to. I mean if a bunch of oil rich barons want to take us to the Premier League, sign me up. If it is another fat old radiator engineer who verbally abuses fans and threatens to wind the club up half a decade down the line, then no thanks.

    As a club it is quite well run, my only disappointment isn’t actually Carol or Kevin, it’s the lack of local businesses and others such as Robbie Williams, who have the cash, but won’t back the club with their money. I could understand with previous dodgy owners, but this time, there could be a push for something great if they were backed. 

     

    What’s hard to see?  It’s a money pit.  Most sensible people with a wad of cash have enough sense to steer clear of football club ownership.  Beyond that there’s a few spivs, some ego trippers and a few mega rich with money to burn.  Speak to fans of a top tier club like Man U and see what they say about owners.

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  5. 6 hours ago, PVFC764 said:

    Maybe getting older and fed up with the club going in the right direction and buying into the hype they are getting ValeChampionship ready and then things going wrong and we end up back where we started in Div 2.  With this squad we could easily end up dropping out of Div 2 instead of bouncing right back up. Been there when Vale were doing well and just waiting for it all to go wrong, as it usually does for Vale.

    The way the Vale Board are sleep sprinting into Div 2 after being taken in by Fraudcroft.  He came for the managers job and ended up talking a great game and walking out of the interview with the DoF part time and now managed to make it full time.  Why wasn't he told to sort out the recruitment the first time around without strikers.  No we went into the 2nd season without strikers and again this window we have failed to bring in strikers who could possibly keep us up.  While the teams around us bolstered their squads and now putting wins together.  This squad go one behind and heads drop and they look like they think another loss is going to happen.  Confidence is lacking and hopefully DM and staff will sort that out - you can only hope

    Carol's open letter basically said the fans mean nothing to her now and we shouldn't voice concerns or ask what the hell is happening at the Vale.  It seems as long as the community stuff doesn't get interfered in, she isn't concerned about what rubbish is being shown on the pitch.  Yes its great to look after the community - Burslem needs it, but it feels she has taken her eye off what is happening on the pitch/recruitment.

    A good win or even a scrappy horrible win tomorrow will start the players getting confidence on the pitch and those valuable points between us and the fifth placed team being reduced down as we try to get out of the relegation zone.

    All well and good…….but you’ve seen far worse.

    I think that you’ve allowed yourself to be overly influenced by social media and internet forums, which are full of dick heads, trolls and self opinionated buffoons, such as myself, which were never part of the equation in the past.  Think on that. 👍🏻

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  6. On 22/02/2024 at 12:02, PVFC764 said:

    I have watched Vale, all around the world for 50 years.  I have had the misfortune of seeing them in Div 2.  Always hoping we would progress up the leagues. 

    Each time I, like many others hope we would bounce straight back up.  Just when you thought great new owners, setting things up so the club progresses on and off the pitch.  Talk the talk about getting Championship ready and now we are well into a relegation battle.  

    Can't see how we are going to get out of the relegation zone due to the rubbish transfer windows we have seen.  The squad seems to have got worse, rather than stronger.  Carol says Fraudcroft is responsible for everything on the pitch, yet seems to be teflon about taking the blame and doing something about it.

    So what’s tipped you over the edge?  You’ve seen far worse than where we are now.

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  7. On 22/02/2024 at 09:28, Rampant Zebra said:

    That is the point though, it does dim the hope. The corner seems to get further away rather than closer as we reverse towards league 2.

    I can only speak for myself.  I’m always hopeful that things will improve, which they do, football is ups ‘n’ downs.

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  8. 17 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

    More looking to renew that i would have thought. Personally I won’t be, football has been dire, there’s a huge disconnect within the club and sadly my interest is really starting to go. No doubt this will be spun back on fans who don’t want to renew / have a season ticket next season with some arguments on budget but the club have brought this on themselves. Much better things to do on Saturdays that watch Ryan loft, Gavin Massey and Connor Grant attempt to play football. 

    Anyone, yourself maybe, who’s been around for a few seasons has seen it all before and suffered all of the emotions.  Crap football, off field issues, relegation, we’ve got the badge.  It still doesn’t dim the hope.  The good times are just around the corner.

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  9. If clowns want to start online polls when we’re deep in a relegation dog fight why not ask what will help most to preserve our League 1 status, fans in full voice singing “Darren Moores Black ‘n’ White Army””, or, “David Flitcroft Get Out Of Our Club”?  Backing the new manager and team unequivocally, or starting disruptive protests?  Straight answer, A or B.  And what I would say to the blinkered few, you’ve got the rest of your lives to protest about David Flitcroft but only a few months until the end of this season to back Darren Moore and the boys in the fight to stay in this division.

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  10. 1 hour ago, PVFC764 said:

    It's the problem.  Don't want to pay to watch rubbish on the pitch and no doubt at Div 2 standard and be fans are being taken as mugs and told off by the owner for raising concerns.  But without the money, the club have no money to buy players. 

    But then will Fraudcroft actually bring in players that will get us out of Div 2 on the first asking.  Nope would be most peoples first thought.

    Do you didn’t watch us at all in league 2 then?

  11. 1 hour ago, Loggerheads Sage said:

    I assume he meant that flitcroft hadn't had the tools to do his job?  Ie, money

    Not saying I agree with that, just my interpretation of the post btw

    No idea, but there has been a budget for all 3 windows, it’s how that budget has been spent, or not spent, that’s in question.  Listening to the podcast would indicate that whilst some players were asking too much we did have some money for the right player but in the end sat on our hands while the clock ticked.

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  12. 5 hours ago, Dr Delgado said:

    Here’s a question, if a large proportion of our fan base have begun to lose faith and belief in our Director of Football and view him as some sort of charlatan then quite probably a proportion of the playing squad may feel the same way?

    If the players lose faith then it may well affect their morale and ultimately what they produce on the pitch. In that sense there may well be some merit in doing all that we can to oust Flitcroft from his post.

    whilst Tom Pope’s post exit diatribe could have been articulated a little better, I think he was trying his best to explain what he believed Flitcroft to be and what he would do to the club. 
     

    I feel like I am part of a family where a younger sister has fallen for a rogue and no amount of pleading or evidence presented can change her mind, she loves him no matter what. We all know how it will unfold but until she see’s it through there’s nowt we can do other than be there for her when the wheel comes off.

    What on earth did that buffoon think would happen when he failed to recruit the players he himself had pointed out that we needed. What did he think was gong to keep us in League 1, the ghost of George Andrews ?

    They don’t have to have faith in Flitcroft, they have to have faith in Darren Moore and his coaching staff plus ultimately each other.  Probably more than anything they need the full backing of the fans.

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  13. 4 hours ago, Brian Johnson said:

    Why would it effect the team trying to stay up?

    That’s not an answer to my question.  It’s an attempt to evade the question.  I’ll try again, how does your vote help the team stay in this division?  Which right now is far more important than the position of the DoF.

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  14. 4 hours ago, Aguar61 said:

    It serves the purpose of giving a voice to those of us who are not won over by an open letter and a self serving, self excusing attempt to tell us what to think. This is a football club not a football business. The fans, the people, they should be the concern for the owner, not a self pitying egomaniac head burying mini Machiavellian 

    Why now though?  Why not wait until relegation or survival is assured?  It’s patently obvious what the general feeling is.  If Flitcroft walks out tomorrow it won’t help the team survive.  There are fans on here who are self pitying egomaniacs, hence this ill timed vote.

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  15. 2 hours ago, Mellor! said:

    I'll renew mine. Football is my release. Vale are my club. I've no interest in removing Carol from the club and she isn't monetarily profiting from the club, so withholding funds will only hurt the club and the team further.

    I held money from Smurthwaite and MOLD, but this is a completely different battle imo.

    Spot on.  We’ll be renewing ours, assuming no changes in personal circumstances.  The irony is that folk will hold on to their money and the club will have less to spend on the product on the pitch.

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  16. 5 minutes ago, Aguar61 said:

    Surely fans of other clubs will want him to stay where he is, that way he won't turn up at their club!

    I’d say it’s quite possible fans from his previous clubs may wish to see him out of work to be honest.

    Anyway bigger than that, the question to @Brian Johnson and all of us really is how does starting an online petition at this point in time help the team to stay up.  Someone explain that one to me.

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  17. 23 minutes ago, Heatwave said:

    Pointless survey. Carol has Flitcroft's back so there is absolutely no way she is going to dump him.

    The thing is, people are blaming him for failings that are within the scope for the team manager. The manager knows what shape he wants his team to play and chooses the players that he thinks will play his system. The DoF assists in recruitment, signs the contracts etc but it's the manager that chooses the targets. Does anyone honestly think Darren Moore will have come to VP on any other basis? The club just made a bad (easy?) choice when appointing a manager this time last season. Vale are paying the price for it now.

    I still feel that we're a couple of good performances away from mid table. All Darren Moore has to do is bring it out of this group of players. Maybe next season he'll create a side more to his liking but for now it is what it is. I just hope that it doesn't end with the dreaded drop.

    I’m sorry but there’s no way 2 managers are culpable for our current squad.  What you’re ignoring is the fact that recruitment of a couple of forwards has been sadly lacking for 3 windows.  The only one slightly questionable is the January prior to DC’s sacking when we recruited Matty Taylor, who on paper looked a decent player but actually turned out to be massively unfit, something which should’ve been taken into account at the time by the “analysts”.

    Moore may do better than Crosby, then again there’s no guarantee of anything.  Either way he’s inherited someone else’s players with little chance to get anyone else in.  So even the sacking of Croz was ill timed.  It’s a mess.

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