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Guitar Ray
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3 hours ago, rider1308 said:
Your full of <ovf censored>
You’re.👍🏻
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5 hours ago, Playa Amodores said:
Ray, whilst I agree with you, somewhat. I was told by a person who works at VP,that she was advised by everyone at the club not to make the statement because of the back lash but she made the decision to do it, going against others advice.
I took it as a plea from the heart for fans to back her judgement, from someone feeling the pressure and no doubt overcome to a certain degree by emotion. Probably one of those things that someone says in the heat of the moment and then in the cold light of day regretted. Agree or disagree with the content, it really wasn’t as big a deal as many folk are making out.
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5 hours ago, Hoppers said:
Some things sting worse than others - for me it was not needed and a mere few weeks later he has departed, hardly covered in glory. - enjoy tomorrows breakfast GR 😍
You’re right, but if that letter from Carol stings then you’ve gone soft. I am looking forward to that breakfast.👍🏻
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45 minutes ago, Bede said:
I genuinely hope that she apologises for that. It was utterly ludicrous to publish.
Apologies? Why not just let it go? It was simply misguide from someone under a lot of pressure, no worse than that in my view.
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Really looking forward to this one now after yesterday’s announcement, not so much the football, more the pre-match stuff. Think I’ll have double gin on my corn flakes tomorrow instead of just the single.
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3 hours ago, JRC said:
I must be honest the time to panic was January. Looking at where we are now it would probably be throwing good money after bad. It's becoming low pressure football and Moore really needs to use the rest of the season to experiment for next: particularly if/when we lose on Saturday. An opportunity to give some experience to one or two of the younger players and see what combinations of contracted players can work in different systems.
Spot on. It’d be all too easy for Moore to jump in and sign a trialist free agent but what’s the point if they won’t make a difference?
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11 minutes ago, Hoppers said:
im in stafford with my mates, but otherwise would have un-boycotted myself for Burton
You part timer, a real fan would boycott their mates……and that’s why I haven’t got any. 🙄
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4 minutes ago, ValeForever. said:
You could tell in the interview he did a few weeks back that he'd had to be persuaded to continue. He's clearly thought enough is enough & made the decision for her. You can't go from releasing that open letter like she did, to sacking the bloke in the space of a few weeks. He wanted out based on the fanbase hating his guts. He's called time & Carol's had to accept it. We'll never know the truth, but that would be my view on proceedings.
Who knows. It seems really strange to go from part time to full time to jacking it in in such a short . More likely Carol tried to quell the unrest with her letter and rant but results ultimately dictated. Ultimately Carol is obviously a very loyal employer, illustrated by her sticking by managers, and the DoF in this instance, past what could be seen as their “sell by date”. Sadly the individuals concerned haven’t managed to repay that loyalty by turning results around. It’s cost us a place in league 1 in all likelihood. It’s not life or death though.
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With Flitcroft gone maybe a few of those fence sitters will buy tickets for this vital game and join the 800 odd hardliners. If you’re after an excuse then Burton’s a great town for a few pre-match beers.
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3 minutes ago, ValeForever. said:
I'm not entirely sure she has. I reckon he's been wanting to call it a day for about a month now but she's backed him & asked him to stay on & see it through. He's finally made the decision for her & they've agreed to call it "mutual". Either way he's gone. Let's see what happens next.
Not sure about that, he only recently went from reportedly being part time to full time.
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41 minutes ago, Paul6754 said:
If Robbie Williams was seriously interested in being the owner of Vale he would have likely become the owner in the relatively recent past.
IMHO Anyone would be crazy to want to own a football club, if events don't go as well as some fans perceive then the "Mob" comes out in force, dissing not only the owner but members of their family.
Football clubs are not always on an upward trajectory in a straight line, there are hiccups on the way, set backs, sometimes a step backwards to go forwards.
IMHO Continuity under the current ownership is the way forward for PVFC.
True. I think if you’re having a 2 season hiccup then something major has to change. The step backwards as you put it should’ve been the sacking of Clarke. A new manager should then come in and take us forward, not necessarily massively but a higher placed finish in the league in this second season would’ve given us a good foundation to build from. Sadly we’ve regressed.
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Thanks to David Flitcroft for his part in steering us to promotion and building the structure of the club from where it was. Beyond that we don’t as yet know if he walked or was pushed. If he walked fair play to the guy for taking that decision, if not, Carol deserves our thanks for making what would’ve been a tough choice.
I’d certainly stick with the DoF model but the manager should always pick which players are to be recruited, the DoF can look after everything else outside of the first team.
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1 hour ago, wotsyobeef said:
Whilst the quality of the Kane statue looks pretty awful the cost of £7200 surprised me when compared to the £100000 cost of the Rudge statue.
I believe the cost of the Rudge statue includes the ground work etc to put it into place but the price difference is huge.
I’m not surprised by the low cost of the Kane statue, it looks like someone asked a group of year 11’s to “make something out of chocolate”.
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17 hours ago, Nippy Naylor said:
Keep an open mind even though we're sinking into oblivion and the owners seem to have lost interest, you know what I'll buy a season ticket , you've convinced me
Good to hear Nip, everyone will feel much so better knowing they have your positivity on board.
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46 minutes ago, Tamworth said:
Yep. I'm just pondering how to get something negative about Flitcoft into all the answers...
Shouldn’t take much pondering, should it?
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3 minutes ago, Tim vlf said:
no more season tickets for me ! go on a game by game basis next season thats the future
The only thing I’d say to that is keep an open mind. 👍🏻
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Good luck to Baylee. Hopefully he’ll get a good run out be able to make his mark.
I think the fact he’s only 17 is lost on some of our fans, although fair to say the fact that he’s been promoted so soon is as much testament to our dire transfer dealings as it is his own undoubted talent.
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2 hours ago, Nippy Naylor said:
Don't listen to radio joke , How's Yates know anyway, I recko
I’d guess Yates knows a darn sight more about it than you know……but what do I know. 🤷🏻♂️
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Baylee Dipepa U17 England call up. Maybe that’s a sign for the future.
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31 minutes ago, Brian Johnson said:
And what blinkers would they be ?
Those great big massive ones…….ususlly obscured by your dark glasses……🕶️
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1 hour ago, darren1810 said:
I can see both sides.
I honestly think Moore had no chance. To decide to sack Crosby AFTER the window closed was a pure dereliction of duty by Carol or whoever.
However 2 points from 24 is quite appalling. 6 points instead of 2 and we'd actually have an outside chance. Nothing has improved and other than Orient we are conceding 2 or more each game.
However for me the dawdling and dallying by the owners has caused this and the obvious recruitment issues.
My opinion is that Moore will walk. Just a hunch.
He's done nothing to endear me to him but I'm prepared to hold judgement until August. If he hasn't left.
You mention the Carol/the owners a couple of times but the DoF would’ve had major input on any sacking and subsequent new manager. On the face of it there was a bit too much shall we say loyalty shown to our previous recent managers when looking at their results prior to being replaced. We can speculate whether this was down to Carol, the DoF or both, but ultimately in my view if the DoF says he’d rather not appoint Crosby then Carol would’ve listened I’m sure. Moore was always going to be seen as a big name appointed mainly to quell the unrest. Time will tell on that score.
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2 hours ago, Granville said:
It struck me yesterday how few of the squad have actually played AND succeeded at this level prior to the last two seasons:
Ripley - yes, but relegated
Jones - no
Sang - no
Lopata - no
Smith - yes, but relegated
Clark - yes, but relegated
Garrity - no
Loft - no
Chislett - no
Mighten - yes, but sent back from a loan
Ikpeazu - yes
Ojo - yes
Grant - yes but only one season where he barely played
Lowe - yes, but legs have gone
Iacovitti - no
Massey - yes
Weir - yes, but relegated
Plant - no
Walters - no
Dipepa - no
Debrah - no
Wilson - yes
Not to mention Arblaster, Devine, Balmer and Thomas were all on their first loans.
It all comes back to recruiting a squad with very little League One experience, and those that did have it were over the hill or had been relegated.
Its no surprise we are where we are.
You would hope IF Moore is given scope to bring in his own players, he will get some experienced League Two heads with a track record of promotions, not a bunch of kids, has beens and National League players.
This list lays bare what we all know, that recruitment has been shambolic. The fact that Flitcroft got lucky with a couple of loans doesn’t conceal the fact that our squad was miles away from where it needed to be going into this season. It’s Sexman levels of delusion to expect so many untried players to come good. For a guy who’s been involved in football for as long as our DoF to show such a stunning level of incompetence is unbelievable, yet here we are.
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9 minutes ago, Santa said:
The other thing with Norm was that it wasn’t all work work work. He kept a healthy work life balance and managed to find plenty of time for his other activities.
Well said. He was an outdoors guy who loved a walk up Hamil Road, he also knew how to look after his employees, plus his other big hobby, watching hours of YouTube videos of obscure footballers.
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3 hours ago, AndreasLipa said:
Dan Jones should never play professional football again after that display.
As bad as Jones was he’s been thrown to the dogs being picked at LB. Our options on the left side of defence dictated by the shortcomings in the squad, which go back to one man. Forget Dan Jones, the real villain of the piece is our DoF for not addressing the issue after Benning left.
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Flitcroft gone
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Thousands? In that case I can only put it down to the world we live in today, when a well meaning, albeit badly worded, letter causes such outrage. I’ll have to admit that most fans I’ve spoken to in the flesh weren’t particularly arsed about the contents of the letter beyond the basics of it defending Flitcroft. General opinion ranging from one of some sympathy towards her predicament to a feeling she’d had some kind of meltdown, poured her thoughts into a jumble of words and put them out there for all to see in a moment of weakness. Who knows?👍🏻