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  1. 49 minutes ago, Family Stand Terrier said:

    I'm wondering what the Railway will be like tonight. Assuming most of those that create the atmosphere will be in the Hamil. Will there be many left in the Railway? If there are, will they head to the Hamil side or the Bycars side? We could really do with them getting behind the lads when shooting towards the Bycars. The Hamil will do its part but we'll need the Railway and Lorne St getting behind them too.

    It doesn’t matter where the singing starts as long as it’s picked up in the other stands.  Plenty of fans I know are staying in their usual seats in the Railway, plus you’ll definitely have some who will move towards the Bycars.

    I also think that if the opposition players act as they did in the first leg it’ll only serve to stir the crowd and help create a very hostile environment.

    The thing is that it’s the last home game of what’s been a good season.  I’m going with the view that we’re a goal down with absolutely nothing to lose, to just enjoy it and play my part to make it a great atmosphere whatever happens on the pitch.

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  2. 4 hours ago, Fosse69 said:
    7 hours ago, Guitar Ray said:
    Fair comment, but it’s effectively the last home game of the season, with a Wembley appearance hanging on it.  Fans will be more than happy to go to Wembley so why not get down the park and help the lads over the line?
    To be honest I’m not actually all that bothered so long as we sell a decent number, because I think the atmosphere sometimes suffers when there are too many “big gamers” in attendance.  I appreciate this may be controversial, fans of the future and all that.

    Isn't that the point of going into the Hamil, getting all the singers together. As a coincidence Leicester are doing the same thing for next season, they have nominated a section of the ground for singing, STs will be able to swop their seats if in the wrong area.

    Absolutely, but it’s not so much the singing I’m referring too, it’s the increase, perceived or otherwise, in negativity and booing when things aren’t going so well.  Most recent example being the Newport game.

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  3. 13 hours ago, Fosse69 said:

    Thursday evening is not comparible to a Sunday afternoon.

    Fair comment, but it’s effectively the last home game of the season, with a Wembley appearance hanging on it.  Fans will be more than happy to go to Wembley so why not get down the park and help the lads over the line?

    To be honest I’m not actually all that bothered so long as we sell a decent number, because I think the atmosphere sometimes suffers when there are too many “big gamers” in attendance.  I appreciate this may be controversial, fans of the future and all that.

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  4. 12 hours ago, darren1810 said:

    I was at Hartlepool.  All I saw was exuberant celebrating similar to against Barrow and Oldham.  Maybe the surprise appearance of Clarke got emotions running but I personally don't think we over celebrated that day. 

    Can only speak for myself but I didn't think it was a done deal ( genuinely not being wise after the event). 

    Bristol was a must not lose , Walsall are Walsall and I certainly didn't fancy us at Exeter . We still had work to do and the group I travel away with were still balanced and cautious not celebrating promotion. 

    I’d echo this.  Perhaps it was more of a buzz on the various social media outlets?

  5. 33 minutes ago, Packmoor_vale said:

    8000 for a play off semi final 2nd leg is a bit concerning for me 

    If we can “sell out” for Newport no reason we shouldn’t do similar for this game, given the magnitude of the game and that the tie is finely balanced.  Ok there’ll be a few school kids and parents that can’t go but that shouldn’t be a huge number.

  6. 1 hour ago, Hitcher said:

    One of the reasons we liked Tom so much as a player was that he is also a fan.

    He no longer plays for the vale but is still a fan. I have no issues with him voicing his football opinions like any fan can and variety of opinion is a good thing.

    This might be a bad comparison, but think about all those ex man u pundits that never say what they truly think about their old club. Then there is roy keane who goes in two footed on everything. Pope is somewhere in between. Whatever you think of him now, he is his own man.

    I tend towards this view myself.  I’ve not read, or heard, everything he’s said.  I wouldn’t expect to agree with all of his comments.  I appreciate he may not easily come to terms with the way his time at the club came to an end.  He was, in the main, a good player for us, an integral part of a promotion winning team.  I’ll remember him for that rather than some half baked comments on social media.

  7. 2 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

    Man City was a very rare chance to visit a Premier League ground.  It was only 30 miles away, wasn't live on the telly and there was no chance of another game against the same team five days later.  Our previous two games had been at home rather than 200 miles away.  And we didn't have the chance of having to cough up for Wembley should we get there.

    I fully understand why folk prioritse their cash at the moment and don't blame them at all.  If you are fortunate enough to be able to afford all this expenditure you shouldn't criticise those who can't.

    Ok, let’s use Salford away as an example then.  We can sell out more tickets in the away end there than we’ve been given to sell for a playoff semifinal at Swindon.  It may be a moot point anyway as for all I know the Swindon tickets may well have all gone.

  8. 19 minutes ago, saintvaliant said:

    There are parts of SoT where 50%+ of children under 18 live in poverty. And the cost of living continues to increase.

    I don’t blame anyone who puts feeding their family ahead of going the game.

    I think you’re missing the point.  Quite simply some fans aren’t going because it’s easy not to due to TV coverage.  Simple as that.

  9. 1 hour ago, saintvaliant said:

    I get it. I’m buzzing to have managed to get tickets and wouldn’t have missed it for the world.

    But if it comes down to a choice of putting food in the table for your family or watching 22 blokes kick a ball around in person when you can watch it on TV on the pub it’s a no brainer as to why some folk won’t be able to go.

    I understand times are really tough for some fans but come on we can take 8k to Man City are you trying to tell me over 6k of those are now, for want of a better term, on the breadline?

  10. 15 minutes ago, saintvaliant said:

    I wouldn’t be overly surprised if we don’t quite manage to sell out given:

    1) Midday kick off means there are no trains

    2) The cost of living crisis and where that is most acutely felt in the low income areas like SoT

    3) Given points 1 and 2 the game being on TV gives folk an easy and cheap way of seeing the game without travelling

    4) No online sales and the club’s current approach to ticket sales making it incredibly difficult for folk outside the area to buy tickets. Thankfully we got sorted in the end but I had all but given up on Thursday

    5) Our record at Swindon over the years isn’t the best.

    6) Quite a few will have gone with the fanzone at the Vale rather than travel. Don’t get that personally but it will be a combo of some of the above I suspect.

    If we sell 2,000 if we represent a 6 or 7 fold increase on what we usually take there. That’s about what I thought we would take and justifies the need to give us that end rather than the usual away section.

    No excuses.  It’s a playoff semi, how often do they come round?

  11. 2 hours ago, Conrad said:

     At least wait till the ticket office closes and they stop selling the tickets before you post.

    It might stop you sounding ridiculous.

    Whilst I agree with you I’ll be really disappointed if we don’t sell out the away game.  No excuses whatsoever not to sell a couple of thousand odd tickets for a playoff semifinal, especially given things that have gone on, not just this season but in our recent history.

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  12. 54 minutes ago, onestepatatime said:

    I am a season ticket holder living 30 miles from Vale Park. I attend a large portion of away games to watch my favourites. I drive my car as I hate coach travel. IF there is a situation where official coach travellers get preference for away tickets I would argue that's wrong as its prejudicial against others like me.

    Spot on, we’ve never used “official” coaches in all my years of following Vale.

  13. 1 hour ago, Joe B said:


    I know I do people's heads in by banging on about stuff. I'm fully aware, and thankfully not bothered. This has just been something that has been a problem for years and it seems to be getting worse and I'll bang the drum till I feel things are right for Vale fans. I have done for years, to much chagrin.

    Can you please bang your drum for those less tech savvy fans who queued up for 5 hours this morning for tickets for the home game.  Thanks.

  14. 18 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

    People will always camp out or get their ridiculously early to ensure tickets for big games. That will always be the case I think.

    Is it based on any kind of fact that we think disproportionate amounts are going to box holders etc?  Don’t forget there’s also going to be a chunk of complimentary tickets given to the players and staff too. 

    I think part of it is just “normal” thinking when demand for tickets for any event are in demand, perceived or otherwise.  If it wasn’t queuing a day early outside the ticket office it’d be someone logging on the virtual queue night before.  No difference.

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  15. 26 minutes ago, werstayinup said:

    In hindsight people didn't have to queue through the night as i went get my home tickets after work,got them at 3.15pm and was asked if i wanted away tickets as well as there were hundreds left

    Correct, but it’s a gamble some obviously weren’t willing to take.

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