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I am sorry to say having watched ever game he has managed that nothing has changed at all and the players just look like they are picking up the money and don’t give a dam
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6 hours ago, Wrex said:
All loan deals have mid-season recall clauses as standard. Or are we expecting Premier League clubs to go "League Two Port Vale say they won't take out future captain on loan unless we remove the clause allows us to recall him after five months, better do as they say"?
The only way to ensure loan deals last an entire season is for the player to do well enough to play every week, but not well enough to warrant a move to a club in a higher division. That was nearly the case with Devine, but unfortunately Plymouth took a punt on him in January.
all loan deals can be recalled legally as the contract ownership and wages are payed by the contracting club in this case Sheffield United and can be recalled at their request
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23 minutes ago, Walka003 said:
What club in their right mind is going to take a Ryan Loft or Conor Grant for example. If they aren't paid up no one will take them.
I agree pay up the contracts of Smith ojo, jones, loft and sang but Moore has had no impact whatsoever and it remains to be seen if he has tge ability to save us from another relegation which will create real problems
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43 minutes ago, Trumpingtonvale said:
Posted this on the wrong thread earlier- Doh!
‘U’s fans at work are worried about Saturday- they’re assuming both Burton and Cheltenham will win and don’t think their team are up for it - a lucky draw last night with Lyle Taylor having an altercation with fans (told them to f’off) a la Sammy Robinson for us at Accy last season - they reckon there are only 3 or 4 players worthy of the shirt (sound familiar?) and they don’t see us as a pushover - I put them straight about the qualities of our team and suggested the right thing (for both sets of fans) would be to play the game as a five-a-side 😉’
Cheltenham won last night and burton play Fleetwood but I want Cambridge to win as I like James gibbons and wished he had stayed
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15 minutes ago, PVFC764 said:
DM needs to be given this season to sort this bunch of sihte out. Either getting rid of them and building his own team or working with them over the close season and building their confidence back up, getting the silly mistakes out of them. Bring in new players into key roles we need and then at the end of the Dec 24 if we are still sihte, then call for his head.
He has had fraudcroft poor 2 years of recruitment to deal with, the team was built for a certain formation - which we all knew would not work- apart from Carol and fraudcroft. Not even God could get most of them to average non-league footballers, let alone league footballers. 🤣
Also see what the owners do backing him.
he needs to pay up the contracts on smith who has been very poor all season likewise ojo, loft..only two goals the awful jones and that lakouzeti and grant and refresh the team..if they have the money
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On 20/04/2024 at 21:10, News Feed said:
Port Vale chair Carol Shanahan has issued a statement which begins with a “heartfelt apology” and says she is “truly sorry” for the club’s relegation from League One. Shanahan also says she has faith in manager Darren Moore, that a full review of the season is underway and that communication with fans needs to improve. […]
The post “A heartfelt apology” – Port Vale chair issues statement after relegation appeared first on onevalefan.co.uk.
I have re this thoroughly and whilst a accept carol’s apology feel it is time to clear the decks; pay off smith’s contract and release him as he has been very poor all season and release him; likewise with ojo, jones who is one of the worst left backs the club has ever had and Masset’s contract is up and don’t renew it as he doesn’t meat the standard and likewise with two goals loft pay up his contract and let him go and ikpaezo’s contract ends at the end of May and let him go as well maybe harsh but fair and release sang who is a midfielder not a riback and get Cass back for next season and completely refresh the saua
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1 hour ago, philpvfc said:
Smith was player of the season last year, deservedly so and he has played well in the last 6 or so games. He is a good center back, just needs 2 decent defenders alongside him. He is not a wing back and he is no use at playing the ball out on the ground, that is why he needs better players next to him.
I think smith has been very poor all season and his contract should be paid up and released likewise with Ojo but Massey’s contract is up in May and he should definitely not be resigned, likewise with ikpaezo and pay up Jones’s contract and let him go like loft and sang
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1 hour ago, Coyney Valiant said:
But they are <ovf censored> they are only in the team because we are so bad
It’s only my view obviously but please let Massey leave the club when his contract expires in May and Loft is clearly not for our club and has only scored two goals all season but who would want him; Bristol rovers were glad to get rid of him but can we please and Jones is awful so he can go like sang and lakozetti and grant and I think ikpaezo will move on and sad we won’t see Wilson again and for me smith can go as he has been very poor all season and I worry that Ripley and garretty may leave and the jury is out for me on Ojo as he do look interested after picking up an extended contract but we need a complete refresh
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not an effort on target time for a clear out; get rid of jones sang but nobody would have the awful loftand Massey’s contract is finished in May as is ikpaezo and please briback Cass from Stockport and smith has been poor all season and sitting on a lucracontract as is Ojo
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6 hours ago, darren1810 said:
It's an inevitability.
Other teams seem to of had gritty gutsy efforts even if fallen short.
Other than beating 9 man Oxford have we once exceeded hopes with a real gutsy performance? I can't think of one.
Of all teams to send us down Bolton. A team I can't abide. Really fear a pasting which would be quite fitting.
Knowing us though it'll be 1-0 with no attempts on goal.
We're like a rotting carcass washed up on the beach.
Roll on 16.50 tomorrow when it's all over.
sadly I agree but I will be there next season in the hope we can rebuild the team and work towards staying in league two and look towards coming back
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1 hour ago, Killersrevenge44 said:
No Uche.
Loft and Dipepa backed up with Chislett
time for ang and leutveiler to leave as they have been awful along with jones and two goals loft
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6 hours ago, ollyandpatch said:
The day we get relegated.
I agree sadly as I expect Cheltenham to beat Lincoln
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my view is straightforward some of the players have not been up to scratch like smith and ojo and I would move them on and I doubt we will see ikpaezo or Wilson again but sell jones who is one of the worst left backs I have ever seen at the club who will just sit out his contract and steel a living from the club like loft
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14 minutes ago, valeparklife said:
Why does Moore keep saying things like "they", "Port Vale", "the Vale".
It's "we" Darren.
YOU are in charge of this.
Take some accountability!
he doesn’t appear to need to take responsibility just like some of the players; smith, loft, Massey..who’s contract ends in May thank goodness and ikpaezo will be gone as will Wilson but how do we get rid of loft..probably the worst striker I have ever seen at the club; sell jones who is dreadful and wouldn’t get in leek town’s side and sell ojo and others and refresh the club asap
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45 minutes ago, valefan16 said:
Just seems odd as now down to 3, no sign of him and the rules certainly until last season would have seen him ineligible unless theres a loophole?
a an Achilles tear is not easy to resolve in my professional experience as an MSc podiatrist but it needs a raise to the heel to prevent over pronation otherwise the impact continues into the torn Achilles and rotation does not stop but good luck to the treatment table
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29 minutes ago, PV1973 said:
At the time there was nothing wrong with his contract extension.
fair comment but we have to rationalise things and votes on loan from Stoke may suit him but time will tell
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10 hours ago, Dipepa delight said:
I think smith has had an awful season personally and has become very complacent probably because of a ridiculous contract extension and for me it is time for him to move on
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15 hours ago, Rockape99 said:
My team Tuesday
Ripley
Debroah Smith Yak
Plant Sang Ojo Ben G Shorrock
Depepper ULCHE
leave yak on the training pitch as he is dreadful every game and Ojo doesn’t look interested and for me smith has been very poor all season and they have vokes on loan from Stoke but we need a lot of goals and I mean a lot as our goal difference is currently minus thirty
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2 hours ago, WV said:
Moore hoodwinked as well. There is a lot of hoodwinking going on at Vale at the minute.
I will be there but not expecting much in the way of success and if we lose and results don’t go our way we could be gone as our goal difference is beyond awful
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2 hours ago, osprey said:
Not a hope
It’s over we are down but can we survive division two with our financial problems?
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46 minutes ago, ollyandpatch said:
Almost time to close this thread. Could be relegated on Tuesday.
sadly I don’t see a win in the side and our goal difference means league two next season and I think people will vote with their feet on Tuesday but our substantial debt could mean even worse next season and for Carol I think the project is over please sell it to Ian Donaldson
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21 minutes ago, Vtid said:
Match day! Go on lads 💪🏻 2-0 win today… Garrity & Uche 💙
I am hopeful in your confidence as I feel we need at least a couple of wins to prevent relegation and our goal difference is very poor
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4 minutes ago, TJHValiant said:
It’s the Vale that are in debt. Those accounts are the club’s, not Carol’s. If we were getting bankrolled by her, there would be no need for the debt or the creditors outlined in page 9 of the account.
All she is doing is taking out loans. Not in her name, but the club’s.
I am sorry to say the debt in the accounts is extremely worrying as tge club has to pay the interest on the debt and I am worried that relegation could put further damage to the accounts as season ticket sales will drop and television revenue will diminish and put further pressure on the owners but I put the whole episode of debt into the hands of Flitcroft who did exactly the same at Bury and they went bankrupt and whilst we aren’t relegated yet these are worrying times
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14 minutes ago, Dipepa delight said:
Just going give you a insight into why I think the way I do
V Bristol Rovers Debrah was hurling long throws into the opposition box yet in the 3 away games I'm not sure whether we did launch 1 into the box ,.he didn't play v. Wigan and Peterborough I know we could have used his throw plus in his younger days he was a forward so try him
I find it quite strange really .
There's a few things which don't add up for me there seems no great effort to get back into games when concede first for 1 whys that someone just enlighten me .
Are the players not desperate to win football games if they are you could have fooled me at no point did them scoring first hurt the players into a response at any point .
Moore speaks more about the fans on his pre match thing than the players.
All the encouraging in the world won't change a thing if you sub like for like .
At no point has he tried Uche /Loft .
Mightens disappeared Lopacos disappeared ,Gore has never appeared.
Chisletts lost his way whys that Moore he is quality help him find his way again by showing videos of all his goals and tell him you believe in him cause I do .
Have a go at me if you like but why were 3 players marking 1 forward Randall and how come he had a free shot with 2 seconds of first half remaining whoevers man he was gave Peterborough lift off .
Moore what's with having every Vale player back at oppositions corners have you heard of a quick counter to score well law of averages say someones going switch off a -28 goal difference tells you that resoundedly that's the case far too often this season .
Exeter are a very good team Vale will need be a 1000 times more braver than Wed to win
Only the brave will survive now
I thought we set up for a draw on Wednesday evening and were completely outplayed and if memory confirms we hardly raised an effort in anger and we need goals to win games and are relying on a very average striker by the name of two goal loft but we need to play chislet from the start and stop messing about and they have a very quick striker in wilshut and we need a win as tge teams below us like Cheltenham and burton will not do us any favours and our goal difference is very poor which could be a real deciding factor come the end of the season but I will be there to support as normal
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Summer transfer rumours and speculation
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how can we give two goal loft a contract as he is awful and his contract should be paid up and got rid of likewise to jones and sang and even smith and ojo have been awful all season