Walter

Bought a ticket for an excuse to go on the lash in Manchester. Might get the train to the ground, boo the players on to the pitch then leave.

The point I'm trying to make is when you compare the squads against other squads within the same division I would argue this is one of the worst we have had. I'm talking post Jan.

OK but we then followed it with a very good run.

The terrible squads in league Two were playing against other terrible squads in league 2. Although bad, there was always 2/3 noticeably worse than us. These last two relegations from league 1 have, in my opinion, been when we have had the worst squad in the league. In both occasions we had a reasonable start. The Bruno one I think by luck really, but this time it was because two loans added so much quality we were a mid table side. Once they left and we did the terrible business we did in Jan, whilst clubs below us went and did something meaningful in the window, we became the worst team in the league. Even Carlisle who are shocking beat us once we decided our own fate in Jan. We tried really hard to do the same thing last season. With that in mind, I do give Darren Moore a little bit of slack. But in all my time he's the most uninspiring manager I think we've ever had and we've had some shockers. I can't even bring myself to watch his interviews so God knows what the so called football players think. His game plan and tactics are nonsense, subs are strange, line ups often strange, game management is non existent. I have no real faith he's the man we need to make a serious go of it next year and to be honest after around 20 years of a ST I'm not that interested in purchasing one next year to see how he gets on.

On reflection after initially thinking Moore would quit at the end of the season I've now started to think that he actually has no choice but to stick with us. That's purely based on how bad he's been. We are his last chance saloon in league 2. He has to hang around to bring us back up or his career is over in my opinion. His last job and this so far have been a disgrace. I know he's been dealt a bad hand but the fixtures were favourable and he's got 2 points. We've been shocking with no real signs of any improvement. Vale have got themselves in a mess and will have to stick so he isn't going to get booted whether I like that or not.

Flictcroft the fraud out. Moore the dummy out. 90% of the gutless, useless players out.

Flitcroft and all his recruitment team OUT. We will need a new manager. That dummy won't be around next year. Can't keep a bloke who will not have won a football match. League 2 won't be easy as we have seen before. What a mess.

The manager needs to take some blame as well. He's been dealt a poor hand but he's had some more favourable fixtures and we've got one point. We look like we have less of a plan than under crossby. It's a terrible start.

Port Vale. The club that loves to talk the talk but never backs it up. All this talk of they are good players etc. Is a load of <ovf censored>. They are dreadful. Dross. Managers got nothing out of them. <ovf censored> off Flitcroft. Absolute shambles on your watch. Do the decent thing and walk tonight.

Pointless statement which is just a load of words rather than actually anything of note. Do your talking on the football pitch. Where it matters. I'm bored of statements. They mean nothing now. Oh and by the way, the club having a sit down with several groups does not fix anything with fan base. None of them people represent me or my feelings for a start. If I'd had a royal invite to this cosy chat I'd have told them that the real reason you've had it rough from the fans is because the football side is <ovf censored> and you've not paid attention. You've let someone who has proven to be out of his depth continue to undo the good work on the football side and when fans have voiced concerns you've doubled down. In short, you've brought it on yourselves so <ovf censored> sort it. It's not about the fans. Never has been. They've backed this club and continue to do so.

At least we would of made two tackles.

I've tried my best to back him every time he's played for vale. I don't mind someone who is crap but tries. But I'm not convinced he's doing that now or even cares. The killer for me was whatever he tried to do which lead to their corner. Pay him up.

Since January I think it's fairly obvious to anyone not blinded by complete faith in a failure that we are the worst squad in the league by some distance. Compare to Fleetwood, they get a head of us at their place and go on to beat us comfortably 3 zip. We get in front at our place and let them back in. Poor players are one thing, you can get by to some extent with fight, organisation, a bit of brains etc. The huge problem for us is we've got crap players in the main and no leaders, no fighters, no winners. It's a team of LOSERS. A team of WEAK men. Pathetic. 90% need to he <ovf censored> off as they will be no good in our aim to get out of league 2 next year. The man who signed them needs to be <ovf censored> off as he clearly isn't up to the task. The analysts who have analysed these signings so thoroughly need to be <ovf censored> off. Absolute <ovf censored> show.

Get him out the big FAILURE.

That's a disgusting second half. A team of losers. Weak men. Relegation inevitable. Start planning for next year. First move remove Dave Flitcroft and recruit someone capable of assembling a squad of footballers.

Pay him up. Useless <ovf censored>.

They are already broke. Nice hasn't worked.

Chelsea don't seem worried about stuff like that.

Don't get me wrong I think sacking the manager needed doing. He's not been good enough unfortunately. However, I question timing. Why Monday? I'm starting to think that things happen at all to convenient times. Andy crossby wasn't the man in November. It's obvious then. Why wait until the transfer window closes? Is it because this takes away the heat from the real people that failed? You sack him December and then fail to back a new man, well that would be quite obvious who is to blame. Here we can paper over. Another example, the fans forum. DoF faces the mases. No one can say he's hiding. But conveniently it's before the window closes allowing him to easily answer questions on a lack of signings with things like "there's still time" and the majority of people will give him the benefit of the doubt that we will get someone through the door. I think this DoF would do very well on The Traitors.