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This is going be a long 85 mins…
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Words fail me 😮💨
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57 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:
There were a few, scant positives there:
- It was a bit better than we have been recently
- Mighten looked lively for a bit
- Weir showed something (though still not convinced)
- Garrity is fit again
However:
- 3 wins in 27
- Nothing in the final third
- Mayhem at the back
- Grant is an absolute fraud
- Moore doesn't have a great track record in relegation battles
Agree bar the implication of the last comment. This isn’t Moore’s mess. He’s got to somehow cobble together a team to get results. Before he came, it was 3 wins in 25, so it’s not like he has tools at his disposal. In the absence of “the new manager bounce” which was always unlikely with our mish-mash squad, my worry is that it’s Huddersfield all over for him… a dark cloud hanging over the club which he can’t shake off to get us going, and inevitably ends with a parting of the ways. Hope I’m wrong as I did/do think he was the best pick of everyone that was mentioned.
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Like Cheltenham and numerous others, it all goes to sh!t in the final quarter. Haven’t had iFollow because I knew we wouldn’t get anything.
We are a poor side, a horrible mish-mash of players “who can do a job” which is very much reminiscent of the Bruno/Brown mess from our last foray into L1. I seem to recall we were flying high early doors then and then our form dropped off a cliff after an horrendous January window. And hey presto….
Moore hasn’t a hope in Hell in salvaging this season. I sort of feel sorry for him, the rot has well and truly set in and it can be very difficult to stop.
If anyone can see where 7 wins are coming from then they’re a better person than me.
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Just now, valiant_593 said:
Really early days but I think this formation looks so much better already. Lots of players attacking, getting in space. Dangerous
I still don’t believe it’s not a back 3 (I’m not watching on iFollow btw). I need evidence!!!! 😂
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Aside from the whole recruitment shambles, can somebody tell me who decided that 3-5-2 should be the de facto formation throughout the various teams?
We have one of the largest pitches in the whole League, ideal for wingers… so guess what…..we don’t play with any.
And we bemoan the lack of Wing Backs or ball playing Centre Backs….. but realistically how many of these are on the market in L1/L2 that will make a meaningful difference?? Precisely none.
Even if you look at the top PL sides, none of them play 3 at the back. So why is it sensible for little old Port Vale to have this as the ‘identity’
It is absolutely bonkers and just beggars belief, it really does.
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2 minutes ago, Diego Maradona said:
Christ! That's optimistic!
Well either way, we’re screwed!!
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13 minutes ago, Brian Johnson said:
Reading v Port Vale
Port Vale v Lincoln
Port Vale v Fleetwood
Derby v Port Vale
Port Vale v Shrewsbury
Leyton Orient v Port Vale
Port Vale v Oxford
Burton v Port Vale
Port Vale v Bristol Rovers
Northampton Town v Port Vale
Wigan v Port Vale
Port Vale v Exeter
Bolton v Port Vale
Port Vale v Cambridge
Peterborough v Port Vale
We need. 5 or 6 wins out of that lot plus maybe a couple of draws and then we need teams above us not to have that same kind of win ratio too
1) Reading - LOSE
2) Lincoln - DRAW
3) Fleetwood - WIN
4) Derby - LOSE
5) Shrews - DRAW
6) Orient - LOSE
7) Oxford - WIN
😎 Burton - DRAW
9) Brizzle - LOSE
10) Northampton - LOSE
11) Wigan - LOSE
12) Exeter - WIN
13) Bolton - LOSE
14) Cambridge - WIN
15) Posh - LOSE
Realistically that’s 15 points…. not enough 😞
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5 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:
Moore has got to shift a club that has won 1 in 5 for over 12 months to one that wins at least 1 in 3.
If he does it with this squad then he deserves a statue.
In other words, we’re down.
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4 minutes ago, valefan79 said:
That would be my team but Debrah at right back and not Smith. For me I keep hearing we can't play anything other than 3-5-2, why can't we just give 4 at the back a go and see how it goes, we are losing every week with this 3 at the back.
Yes, this being the formation which has seen us concede 7 for the first time I can remember, and concede 3 goals in a game three times in 2024, two of which were against sides in the bottom 4. But yes, let’s keep going with it 👎
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37 minutes ago, NW9Valiant said:
3-5-2 is what DM will play, maybe 5-3-2 as Sheff Weds did that. Anybody hoping for 4 at the back (me included), and especially now, in for a shock. Very unlikely
Our flank options are not good enough to defend, but then our midfield is just so easy to walk through at present. Centre Mid is the biggest issue. We only got our second because of a lumped ball up from the back.
I have no idea when Garrity is back, but god we need him. Gore too when is back should be able to step in and allow Ojo to move into the back three again as a wide cb on the right (Dan Jones will be on the left). Weir has been a bit disappointing for me, but after half a season of Arblaster and Devine, hard to live up to.
I despair at the system too. I never quite liked it under DC either. But one thing I'm sure of, is DM is the better choice to motivate and organise these players to get some results. We struggled after 30 mins today, we don't have enough bite in the midfield and it does no help to the front 2 if everything falls apart in the middle.
We'll get some results, I'm sure of that. Question is whether there are enough points for us to get in the remaining games - keeping in mind we are dependant on other teams being awful too.
I'm looking at the team sheet today and seeing us needing 4 or 5 players just to stay up and give this 'system' the chance it needs to succeed.
Hopefully we get some more pragmatism in coming games. Mighten looked bright. We run at teams but never cross, too often running into brick walls or hoping Chiz can fashion something. Let's use our wingers and whip some crosses in early, give them something to think about. Teams know all they need to do is flood the middle of the pitch and we will just go backwards.
I agree re pragmatism, and that’s exactly what Moore said he’d play to. But irrespective, 3-5-2 hasn’t worked for over 18 months now, and other than the play-offs, arguably longer than that (remember that hideous televised Newport game?) so I don’t feel we’ve really anything to lose by doing something different. I’d go something like:
Ripley
Smith-Jesse-Kasper-Yak
Sang-Ojo-Chiz
Massey-Wilson-Mighten
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I was genuinely excited for today. And then I saw the line up. It was only ever going to be “shuffling the deck chairs” but nonetheless I wanted/expected something a bit different from the tactics that basically haven’t worked for 2 years. Instead 3-5-friggin-2 again. I despair, I really do.
I was looking forward to seeing our next home game and what Moore could do but I don’t think I’ll bother tbh, I sense it will be more of the same.
I still think he’s a good appointment, but the more I think about it, the more he feels like a Cheerleader for DF.
We have got absolutely no chance of getting out of this mess. None. Anyone who thinks we will is just kidding themselves. There will be no free-agent striker or left-backs (or CB or CM for that matter!) so again, get over it.
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And that you go. New manager bounce and all that. That’s 6 points Cheltenham have had off us. They hadn’t won for 15 games and scored 1 goal before DC. They scored 5 against us. So what’s that say about us?
Nothing against Moore who I think is a great appointment, but same team + same tactics = same result.
Pity those results have been absolute dog s***.
Anyway, the march towards L2 is in full swing.
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1 minute ago, valiant_593 said:
Taylor is class….. always said so….
It’s funny that we have players like him and Loft who are garbage for us but always seem to score against us when they go elsewhere.
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So, had a bit of time to dwell on this…..
I think I was one of the earliest, if not THE earliest advocates of Moore but I did not believe we would get him.
Personally I think it’s an excellent appointment. I don’t want to over-hype him, but we have a solid, experienced manager who I think can have that unifying effect of Adams, DC etc.
We do have to remember that this is not his team. It is completely imbalanced and he’s basically going to have to make a silk purse from a sows ear if we’re to have any chance of staying up, which I think is still unlikely.
But I feel that under DM we’ll at least make a fight of it, rather than witness more meek surrenders such as those vs Boro, Bolton, Derby etc.
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Mansfield 9-2 up!!!! WTF??!!
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31 minutes ago, billbee33 said:7.pm announcement
Brace yourselves……
…….the bogs have gone again 🤣🤣
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If…….and IMHO it’s a MASSIVE IF…..we get Moore then even if we went down (which I believe is pretty much certain) then I’d back him to re-build a side capable of getting us back up. And that’s despite an incredibly tough looking L2 these days. The only worry with him would be if he didn’t feel he was being supported and did one if a bigger opportunity came up.
Irrespective of whether it’s Moore or someone else (Duff would be my 2nd choice) we have to remember that they are basically stuck with someone else’s squad. So it’s a free hit in my mind and relegation wouldn’t be on them.
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We were in a weird position with Crosby. He was obviously a great coach and wanted to be a manager (wasn’t he up for the Newport job?) so I some respects he was the natural choice. It’s the lack of tactical ability, rigidly sticking out to a very specialised 3-5-2 yet not having the players to fit the system nor the minerals/nous to change it when it’s clearly not working, that’s what gets me. But we all know who the main culprit is.
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So that’s 4x we’ve played Stevenage…. all of which are draws. They are in the play-offs, we’re relegation. Work that one out.
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Vale concede soft goal shock…
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Just now, SFBT said:
Unless...
DF has seen the light.
More likely that someone from Bet Victor has been browsing this site!
But……
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4 minutes ago, Blaster The Master said:
The prospect of Moore in the dugout is giving me a bonner
Too right. He’s got a bit of personality and you know his sides will get stuck in and be organised. Anyone who can rally their team to come from being 4 down in a P/O semi after an absolute spanking in the 1st leg must have something about them. Yes please from me, but I just don’t think it will happen.
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Lincoln City (H) match thread - 24th Feb
in Port Vale present
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But this is what happens when you have a goalie that wants to get too involved in play.