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Iron Curtain

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  1. 2 hours ago, Bald Eagle said:

    Couple of good clips on Faceache of Tom’s free kick.  There would be hell up on here if Lucas hadn’t saved that one.  Nowhere near the corner.

    I thought the same but watching in on the blink goal cam it’s actually a far better free kick than I thought.

    Thankfully Trevor Kettle is useless and let him take it from where ever he wanted rather than where the foul took place.

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  2. 3 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

    I don't actually know the intricacies of the National League so forgive my ignorance.

    But I think there is no ceiling on payments so you can literally buy your way up. 

    But then hypothetically say Wrexham came up or Stockport how can they afford to pay the likes of Tozer, Mullin and Sarcevic a kings ransom in League 2 ? 

    Surely the League 2 budget limit would kill them stone dead similar to what is happening at Salford. 

    I was wracking my brain thinking the same thing. Although Salford managed to do it so there must be a way round it.


  3. 1 hour ago, Beech said:

    I always thought he was well liked and respected in the dressing room?

    I'm not sad that he's gone. Far from it. Just making the point if I had to make a choice between him and Lloyd to bring off the bench, I'd still opt for Pope. Lloyd might and hopefully will come good, and just might go on to have an excellent career. But as of right now I just think he's not at anything like the level of our other players.

    Lloyd was great today… a real outlet and I love his terrier style.

    Proctor now plays the Pope role, so we don’t need another one. I wouldn’t swap them. 

    And that’s before we consider what his influence would be around a manager he hates and DOF he called a scumbag. No thanks.

    If, and it’s a big if, we do go up… it will be a measure of the man Tom Pope is as to whether he comes out and admit he was wrong.

    Still… long long way to go yet.

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  4. The easiest way to derail a positive mood around the club is to dive into the tiniest detail to try and cause argument over hypotheticals.

    Everyone is allowed their opinion… let’s not keep adding fuel to the fire of those that are built on what seems like a vendetta. 



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  5. 6 minutes ago, Joe B said:

    Believe he described him as one of the players who embodied the mentality he wanted to build at the club, alongside Smith and Conlon, in his infamous 'can't wait to shift the deadwood' interview.

    We'll never know, but for him to speak so highly of a 23 year old he hadn't seen play speaks volumes about his character, and DC puts a great deal of important on that.

    Didn’t he also do the right thing with the contracted players he didn’t want and make it clear they wouldn't play for him again? Therefore giving them the best chance possible of finding a longer term career in football?

    He had that option with Gibbo. Says everything that he kept him as part of the squad.

    Feels like someone is desperate to disrupt the good vibes around the place any way possible.



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  6. We have played 5 of the 6 on this chart that are not us.

    It shows the teams who have conceded the least in the league.

    We are second.

    But but but… DC is a meanie.

    And and and… sometimes… he he he makes too many changes for my liking. 



  7. 23 minutes ago, werstayinup said:

    I keep seeing how poor their defenders were and yes they looked that way BUT was that because our play made them look poor? They had the 3rd best defence up until yesterday.

    To some(not saying its you by the way) always seem to say that when we win the opposition has been poor,i just think sometimes our play makes teams look poor.

    DC certainly agree with you and let Bowers know 😂

    Cracking result… lovely Jubbly.

  8. 2 hours ago, Beech said:

    Not to my knowledge. He's not an attacking midfielder or anything but from what I've always seen of him, here and there, I certainly wouldn't label him a genuine defensive midfielder either. Not to say he isn't capable enough. I see him as a bit of a Joe Allen type player in that he's busy and tidy.

    Looks like from JoeBs post that he did play DM for Lincoln.

    I like him in the role, less blunt force brute and more intelligent breakup play and quarterback.

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  9. 50 minutes ago, robf said:

    Any more score predictions? I fancy 2-1 myself. I don't think we've quite got that rock solid defence to keep a clean sheet but I think we've got a lot of goals through the team.

    Hate to say it but I'm nervous about tonight... I always remember as a kid the Vale would be struggling near the bottom of the league and then go and turn over a top team to boost our season.

    Its lovely that we are now the top team in that scenario, but they have the players to hurt us.

    2-2 draw.


  10. 5 hours ago, PV1973 said:

    I don’t see Lloyd getting back in yet tbh after his appearance at Sutton. 

    it’ll be interesting to see what formation we go with at Mansfield. Nice that we have different options. If proctor isn’t fit we can go 3-5-2 or even 3-4-3 to get politic and Worrall up front alongside Wilson. Or we could go with the back 4. Either way I think we should be starting our strongest team and not being tempted to go with a bit of squad rotation. 

    DC makes the point over and over that you can’t judge a player after only 10 games.

    So I doubt he would do it after a 25 min sun appearance.

  11. 47 minutes ago, Doha said:

    Yeah, but Phil is making a very fair point that while no one is actively waiting for Wilson to fluff something, unfortunately there's a few about who just can't let it go regarding Covolan and are poised ready for him to make a mistake. I'm not saying you are but it's all over that daft facebook group, and was aired on P&G yesterday. 

    That's just how it is though. We were only 17 odd minutes into this 46 game season when the anti Clarke/Flitcroft abuse started at Northampton remember. I remember it well because I was stood in front of three muppets at it for about 80 minutes of the game, it does your head in listening to that constant negative drivel. DC has said in a few interviews now that he's a good manager up until he loses two games and then he's crap and he's right, some of us are too fickle. Won 7/8 in a row last season, won 6 out of the last 8 this season, there's a few around who need to hold their hands up instead of disappearing to try to save face. Again not you. 


    This. 100%

    Its the psyche of the football fan in general, but I do think the vale are particularly bad at it.

    We revel in targeting one of our own players.


  12. 26 minutes ago, toyahw said:

    DC is very passive aggressive in interviews.  He is not a likeable person on the face of it. But as he says, it is about winning games of football. Which we did. So good luck and all the best to him.

    I think this is part of the problem… judging him as “likeable” or not based on the 3 mins he gives to the press every few days, rather than how he treats people (players, reporters, supporters, staff behind the scenes all day every day) seems like a particularly poor way of judging someone’s character.


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  13. 3 minutes ago, andy jones said:

    As someone who was critical of Clarke's appointment, and his big man interviews, I have to say his interviews this season have been far more honest and constructive and easier on the ear.

    I find this really interesting… I genuinely don’t see any difference in his interviews this year vs last.

    I think a lot of people over reacted last year and now they are realising it was a bit over the top?

    Not having a go at you personally as I think a few will be in the same boat… but honestly, he hasn’t changed his interview style at all.


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  14. 5 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

    Also, those questioning Pett. Did he not get get the assist for the first goal and play worrall in for bennings goal? Mental to say he’s not performing 

    It’s only one from what I can tell.

    Let’s all not make this out like loads of vale fans don’t rate him.

    One bloke has given his opinion which is quite incorrect based on the vast majority of responses

    Pett is brill.


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