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Askey and Artell turn down Rochdale with Jim Bentley about to be announced according to multiple Twitter sources
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Just a quick note to Bez who I thought was excellent in commentary today!
Well done youth!
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51 minutes ago, DannyBezza said:
sorry it was not meant personally. Emotion was high he comes across as a very committed and decent bloke if I am honest. Personally I don’t rate him as a footballer. It’s a game of opinions and I don’t really see what he offers at all. Give me Walker or Taylor or even burgess before him who have some technical ability on the ball. I will give you he works hard and runs and there maybe games we need that, but a game where we have more of the ball we need technical footballers on the pitch for me.
No stress mate, knew it wouldn't have been anything more than a footballing opinion. And trust me I was as emotional as the next bloke last night.
Walker / or Taylor have a real chance now with Conlon's ban to stake a claim.
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13 minutes ago, Wrex said:
"don't like the bloke", not lad. But I'm sure Bez means he doesn't like him as a player as there is no reason to dislike him as a person. Poorly phrased.
Totally agree... I'm 100% sure there is no malice in it at all and it was a slip of the tongue... Bez was quite rightly emotional after the game as I was!
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Good honest Pod lads... Personally I think Bez went a little too far when he used the phrase "I don't like the lad" when talking about Garrity. But I think/hope that was a slip of the tongue and was meant to be a reference to his technical footballing ability rather than a view on the an himself. I may have also misheard so apologies if that's what's happened,
The pod also raises a very interesting view of Sproson... personally I think he is conflicted and shouldn't be used on Radio Stoke to further his own business and self serving interests.
Thankfully Flickers and DC are weening Port Vale off his toxic bosom.
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5 hours ago, toyahw said:
Give it a rest with this teams out of position crap. After 16 games no one "is out of position". Mansfield are poor. Are Oldham " out of position". Lazy excuse for us being piss poor against poo teams.
No. Oldham are a poor side and we shouldn’t have capitulated. We dominated them but they caught us out.
Its a pretty simple concept that Mansfield’s league position when we played them wasn’t reflective of their squad and potential. As proven by them winning 5 games on the trot since. They out performed us. They are not a “poo” team by any stretch.
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On 01/11/2021 at 21:10, toyahw said:
Only time will tell. Personally I thought we gave them too much respect in that game is all I am saying. We didn't play well, we got a point.
Told you Mansfield were on the march.
Good side, hugely underperforming before we played them… seems we were unlucky to catch them as they kicked into gear.
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6 minutes ago, toyahw said:
Only time will tell. Personally I thought we gave them too much respect in that game is all I am saying. We didn't play well, we got a point.
Agree we didn’t play well… but as DC says when we run over a team, part of that is what about what we do to make the opposition look poor.
Mansfield had a bunch of players back from injury who had been out during their shocking run, they played well against us… or if you prefer, they clicked and played to their potential. They are a decent side.
Agree that we were lucky to get a point. But it’s a valid point that they are not a bottom 3 side by any stretch and on their day will beat some good teams in our league (like Tranmere 2-0 at the weekend).
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22 minutes ago, toyahw said:
They weren't in a false position at that time. We whopped them 6-3. They got there stuff together later, true.
It’s pretty obvious the meaning behind saying Mansfield are in a false position. Same with Bolton last year.
Mansfield will finish top 10 minimum.
If you prefer… Mansfield as a club are not performing to their potential but this won’t continue for long.
Semantics I guess.
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12 minutes ago, toyahw said:
I thought we were way too cautious and gave them the initiative from the off. Too much talk of them being in a false position. No one is in a false position after 14 games. But we got a point, move on.
Bolton were last year
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One thing I find interesting is a lot of the people who don’t like the management team because they don’t trust them we’re clambering for Derek Adams… a man who did the exact same thing to Kevin Ellison and spent his entire career at Morcambe apparently applying for other jobs.
Guess it’s just what suits your narrative isn’t it!
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7 hours ago, johnjeffersfanclub said:
Getting called a scumbag by a legend will hurt.
I don’t think it will.
Especially given the dramatic swing in Popes opinion, from Flickers being someone he thoroughly recommended be brought to the club, to “scumbag”.
And the reason… because they has the audacity to not ask Tom his opinion on the players.
I think it will vindicate Flitcrofts view that Tom wasn’t someone that would be helpful in the new era… someone who is clinging to the past… someone who wouldn’t embrace the change from “5 pints down the pub and try dead hard” to professionalising the club… someone who has been the king of Burslem and wouldn’t give up his influence easily.
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2 minutes ago, philmpv said:
Not listened to it yet, but was just wondering whether the people that it seems he's been given free reign to accuse of some nasty things and have a pop at were given the opportunity to respond? Or will they be?
They say at the start of the pod that they have asked the club if they want to comment.
Tom calls it himself in the pod… people will say it sounds like sour grapes and in that respect he is right. There are two sides to every story and there is no need to keep going back and forth on who was right and who was wrong as all it will do it divide the fan base.
The best thing the club can do is not get involved… Tom is a legend and is allowed his opinion. He has voiced it, is no longer at the club and it’s time to move on.
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Just finished listening... its clearly something that is very painful for Tom.
He sounds like someone who knows the game has moved on past the style of player he was and is struggling to accept it.
Sounds like dealing with Askey did a real number on him mentally. Whether that has impacted him to the point of being in such a bad place he cant come to peace with the way things ended I don't know.
Case in point... "Flickers was brilliant and I recommended to everyone that they get him on board... hen he didn't ask me my opinions on players so now I hate him." Doesn't feel like a proportionate response to me.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion on people though and Tom is more than entitled to his given its his truth... Pinch of salt on his ability to judge someone maybe given 2 people he had positive things to say about were Norman and Artell 🙂
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Another great pod lads... and a perfectly correct response to that absolute dross of a message that was read out.
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Another cracking pod!
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23 hours ago, stupers said:
Sorry, I didn't listen to all of it and I wasn't on the recording! I've checked and Jonny said it was in a Pugh interview. Not us leaking anything!
Totally agree mate, you guys leaked nothing, it was a genuine question from me as I was unaware of the fact he wasn’t injured. Keep up the good work on the pod, it’s a brilliant pod!
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@stupers another cracking pod this morning! Did I hear you right that Manny hasn't been injured?
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Not quite sure what the point is of coming onto a thread and start sl@gging off a brilliant podcast which gives a fresh and original view on the vale.
By all means, stop listening but not sure what giving it the big un and calling out the bits you don’t like achieves.
The irony of calling it self opinionated in a self opinionated post!
Tall poppy syndrome perhaps.
Keep up the amazing work lads... love the pod!
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@stupers I have been a little late to this party... but these pods are amazing! Awesome job and a great listen!
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Absolutely bonkers... what’s with the statement about the BBC, licence fees and the Proms at the bottom?
I wonder how many idiot Bury fans are taken in by this loon, like some were taken in by ours!
We should thank our lucky stars for Carol and Kevin every day... remember when people started questioning their suitability?!?! 😂😂😂
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