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    Flitcroft gone

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    Right decision and will benefit Port Vale in the long run if not the short run to the end of this season.

    My view on Carol is that I try to judge people on intentions over execution.

    Her intentions are absolutely to do the best she can for Port Vale. That gets her a significant amount of leeway in my eyes.

    The execution hasn’t been perfect and it’s clear as a person she is very loyal and tends to hold on to people for too long when it’s clear they should go.

    Its not the worst fault in the world, I can name many MANY worse by just looking at previous owners.

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    Lincoln City (H) match thread - 24th Feb

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    13 minutes ago, werstayinup said:

    Did you see him at the half time warm up right by the paddock....... stood there hands in pockets not really bothered,smiling and laughing,thats why the youth was having a go at him,his attitude was shocking tbf and I aren't a Loft hater

    It’s a pretty bad vicious circle… Ryan Loft  has been made the boo boy and the treatment of him on social media and in the ground has been pretty poor.

    And this is a bloke who pundits continually tell us is a confidence player.

    His reaction to his treatment is a natural human one unfortunately and the circle will continue. 

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    Lincoln City (H) match thread - 24th Feb

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    24 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

    Totally agree mate. You’ve got people on here using the excuse that he’s paid to take it. Brain dead. Take it to the extreme and think about what that can do to someone’s mental health. It doesn’t sit right with me. 

    It’s disgusting.

    Look at the behaviour on here tonight. Slagging him off for walking down the tunnel… building the pack mentality hatred towards the bloke.

    When it gets pointed out that there are rumours he was abused at half time and probably within his rights to walk away, it gets ignored and they just move on.

    A bigger man would acknowledge that if’s that’s true some of the stuff said on here tonight is out of order and won’t help the player, the team or the club.

     

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    Lincoln City (H) match thread - 24th Feb

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    25 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:

    Also.

    I've been jokingly starting the Loft Love Club.

    That will stop immediately.

    He walked straight down the tunnel at the end. No hint of acknowledgement. Get me money and get me home.

    Who is paying your wages, Ryan? Grow up. Maybe score a goal for the first time in over a year instead of petulantly stropping off at full time.

    Get him sacked. A disgrace to Port Vale and I'd rather play Dipepa or the corpse of Wilk Kirkham every week.

    Rumours on Twitter he was being abused by fans whilst warming up at half time.

    Not sure why brain dead idiots who abuse players at the ground can’t understand that it doesn’t help Port Vale football club… in fact clearly it does the exact opposite.

    Slag the bloke off for not clapping but IF he was being abused to his face as he is trying to do that job do you blame him for not sticking behind?

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    1 hour ago, valeparklife said:

    Great work!

    Championship player the fans would love, we have tracked his for 12 months. He wanted to come but they wouldnt sell him and he has only played 6 mins in the championship so far - ??? Frustratingly I can’t figure anyone out despite trawling late substitutions in the championship - Flitcroft says we will go back for him in the summer 

    The only player I can see that's played 6 minutes in the Champ is Joey Phuthi from Sheff Wed.

    https://fbref.com/en/comps/10/playingtime/Championship-Stats#all_stats_playing_time

    Championship striker who was exceptional in league 1 who we chased right to the end but it slipped by as they didn’t want to release him because they didn’t get their player and he hasn’t played much since - ???

    "Exceptional in L1" to me would mean they've appeared high on the top L1 goalscorer charts over the past few seasons. The only realistic player I can see would be Lee Gregory, who wasn't named in the 25 man squad for Wednesday since the transfer window.

    Gregory is a good shout, as we know Wednesday didn’t get their man due to the Michael Smith saga.

    I had a look at that website and saw Phuthi but he is a defender… it’s not clear whether he has played exactly 6 mins, or around 6 mins… also whether that’s since Jan or since the start of the season. This one may have to stay a mystery

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    The Flitcroft podcast is fascinating, especially the January bit.

    He rattles off loads of strikers details (no names but little clues) we were after and why we didn’t get them.

    Here are his comments and my GUESS as to who they might have been.

    Premier league player who had scored a lot of goals in league 2 who was our main target but he went somewhere 45 mins from where he lives - Joe Taylor went to Lincoln from Luton and had scored 11 for Colchester on loan

    Player we had everything agreed and at the last minute they asked for an astronomical loan fee - ??

    Prem player on loan somewhere else who we wanted to buy, but couldn’t get him out of his loan - Dale Taylor

    Loan player from Arsenal who was up in Scotland but got another offer overseas which was above league 1 level - Mike Biereth was at Motherwell on loan from Arsenal and went to Sturm Gratz

    We were completely outbid for someone by one of the big hitters in league 2 - Jack Marriot to Wrexham 

    Championship Striker - “everyone knows what happened on deadline day” - money was all agreed but his club didn’t get anyone across the line so wouldn’t release him - Michael Smith from Wednesday

    Championship player the fans would love, we have tracked his for 12 months. He wanted to come but they wouldnt sell him and he has only played 6 mins in the championship so far - ??? Frustratingly I can’t figure anyone out despite trawling late substitutions in the championship - Flitcroft says we will go back for him in the summer 

    Championship striker who was exceptional in league 1 who we chased right to the end but it slipped by as they didn’t want to release him because they didn’t get their player and he hasn’t played much since - ???

    Best Striker in league 2 - made a big bid but the player wants to try his chances in the championship for his next move - Jake Young 


    He also said we are talking to out of contract players and some from overseas who could play here after Jan.

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    1 hour ago, Emile said:

    DM usually plays 3 5 2 so I expect that was part of the reason as to why he was recruited

    The two is interesting though - not sure how we play 2 up front currently 

    This is an interesting interview with DMs usual assistant manager. It indicates he isn’t as wedded to 352 as we think.

     

    He says that they played 5 or 6 different formations at the start of their Wednesday journey as they adapted in games and figured out what was best for the players they had… which was the 352 they settled on.

    At Doncaster he played 4231.

    That said, I think our squad has been recruited for 352 so I reckon that’s what he will go for.

    Personally I think the 4231 would suit us at the moment

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    1 hour ago, Vale1995 said:

    The risk you take leaving it to the last minutes of a window to business. Plenty of clubs have signed strikers well before the window closing

    Totally agree… I think going o to that situation without a backup is unforgivable 

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    34 minutes ago, Guppys left peg said:

    Just to give an idea of the clubs who are looking at him basically it’s a non-starter. 

     

    Alan Nixon said this morning that Sheff Wed didn’t get a striker in, and now Romano saying they may go in for Gayle. 

    I wonder if that was the issue last night?

    We may have had everything agreed with Michael Smith and then sat there waiting to see if Sheff Wed would let him go only to realise they missed out and therefore said no.

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    Feels very much like we have missed out on someone at the last minute. The bloke on Facebook said he saw a very impressive championship striker shaking hands with the coaching team before going back in with his agent.

    When people were asking who it was he would say ‘no’ to names like Gregory and Wyke… but wouldn’t say anything if people mentioned Michael Smith. Could it have been him?

    So feels like either

    1. we will get an announcement this morning and people will have to admit that’s a very good addition, or

    2. We will find out that we missed out at the last minute and couldn’t get it across the line and that will have to be viewed as a massive failure especially with no back up option.

     

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