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    David Flitcroft Out

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    Yes but u missed the part where is said reports directly to Darren Moore who must have the final say. The whole structure needs ripping up and starting again.
    Is Darren Moore in control of the Player Budget? The recruitment manager is responsible for the lists of players of the type requested by the Football Director. The performance of the existing staff should be subject to annual/seasonal reviews. Has Darren Moore ever worked at a club without a football/sporting director? To whom in the past, he would have suggested players or positions to be filled.

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    David Flitcroft Out

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    2 minutes ago, fuzzyvalefan said:

    Our promotion happened a year too soon, didnt allow us to consolidate properly and it has continued to hamper us into this season.  If we go down which is looking likely I think we will bounce back quickly and then have a better chance at consolidation in League 1.  I do however think that the rebuilding process cannot be allowed to be run by David Flitcroft and in all honesty, i dont think should be done by a director of football at all.  Darren Moore has a better CV and better contacts than Flitcroft for a start so Flitcroft's position is not only untenable but also completely redundant.  What i would like to see in place is a return to the chief scout role, someone who can oversea the scouting network and report directly to Darren Moore.

    We have a Recruitment Manager in charge of the Scouts and Player Knowledge

    League one relegation watch

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    I was reflecting on last season and how in our run in we basically stayed up as Bristol rovers were on the beach. Anyway here is my view of the motivations of teams in our fixtures across the run in:
    - Oxford (H) - Play off chasers on a bad run
    - Burton (A) - Relegation 6 pointer
    - Bristol Rovers (H) - Mid table nothingness, but too soon to be on holiday
    - Northampton (A) -See above
    - Wigan (A) - See above
    - Peterborough (A) - Outside chance of automatics
    - Exeter (H) - On the beach or relegation 6 pointer
    - Wycombe (H) - On the beach
    - Bolton (A) - Automatics / Champions
    - Cambridge (H) - relegation 6 pointer
    Apart from the Bolton game I think our last 4 fixtures are pretty great. If we can get a few wins in the next few games it puts us in touch (potentially)
    Uche to earn his dosh?

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    David Flitcroft Out

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    1 hour ago, jjvale_03 said:
    I know that our annual turnover is £7.9m and all the things you've listed will contribute a tiny % towards that. I also know the going 'price' for a league one standard striker and a league one standard manager, with the 'value' of both being the increased chance of remaining in this league. I believe the drop off in EFL consolidation payments is around 700k from league one to league two. Gotta sell a lot of pizza in the fanzone to fill that hole. It's a shame the club have prioritized investing in infrastructure with an incredibly low ROI versus making the right call on the pitch, where the real money is to be made and lost. 

    Infrastructure has a much longer life than a footballers contract, so the ROI is understandably low, apart from the fact that some is legally required.

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    David Flitcroft Out

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    Perhaps a little dim, but also leveraging my first class degree in economics to question your claims. 
    Your theory only works if the demand previously outstripped supply. Are you really implying that previously the club were turning away corporate business over the summer months because we didn't have enough function suites? Are you also saying that on multiple occasions this summer we'll have a packed Robbie's on the same day as packed function suite? I struggle to believe that.
    Totally get that it brings in an extra £90k/season through extra corporate bums on seats (although a % of that will have been coming into the club as these fans sat in other stands previously) but to suggest that Robbie's will be a major driver of revenue (doubling, in fact) over the summer is far-fetched. 
    Robbie's as an empty room was bringing in no revenue. As a hospitality area, it can bring in revenue throughout the year independently of football matches, possibly at the expense of other business locations.

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    Leyton Orient (A) match thread - March 12th

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    I mean all we can ask for is effort like last night i still anticipate we are going down and flitcroft needs to go. But atleast there was a bit of grit and fight in them last night. My tuesday night wasnt ruined for once which is nice.
    Moore's priority with our backs to the wall is to identify the players worth keeping and how they can be used. I assume he has already identified the obvious shortages and made them known. Should he manage to retain L1 status, the task becomes bigger as L1 is likely to be a stronger league next season. At the same time, he will prove his usefulness to the club. The immediate task is Oxford on Saturday.

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    Leyton Orient (A) match thread - March 12th

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    Question: is it worth a tenner on Vale V Cambridge, last game of the season, Vale win and we stay up...??
    Just a question. 
    Well done tonight Vale. Well battled and a good point at a tough place to go and play. 
    Seemed like they all gave a tonight. 
     
    I was thinking that, a last game decider at VP after a last-minute win at Bolton. Pack the Park.

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    David Flitcroft Out

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    17 minutes ago, jjvale_03 said:

    Explain how the Robbie Suite will be bringing in 'twice as much' revenue over the summer months? (and will it start to recoup any of the huge loss the club took on the actual Robbie gig...?)

    The Robbie Suite and lots of the Hospitality areas are used for revenue earning purposes throughout the year.

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    Season ticket renewals

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    Moore has always worked under a DOF model hasn’t he? He has no record of calling the shots on recruitment. 
    Did he not leave Wednesday because he could not strengthen them on promotion? Seems he was right? Most clubs have DoF or Sporting Directors nowadays , even Barrow. It is the recruitment process or system that counts, limited by the budget. Without input into the system squads become unsuited.


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    PVFC Meet delegation of fans regarding current concerns

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    14 minutes ago, Guitar Ray said:

    True, we will still be crap, but let’s not forget that we should now be in the process of at least drawing up a list of targets for next season, made all the more difficult by the fact we don’t know what league we’ll be playing in, although we can all probably guess the answer to that.  As it stands our DoF will be overseeing this process, which doesn’t give me any confidence.

    I assume the Recruitment Manager does all the leg work at this stage, whether there is much difference in top end  L2 Promotion hopeful budgets and ours  as a L1 hopeful will depend on  what the  Owners have indicated.

    PVFC Meet delegation of fans regarding current concerns

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    14 minutes ago, Emile said:

    I think the majority of fans want to know what we discussed regarding DF. I'm sure that Carol won't have said he's getting sacked in the morning so don't worry, but was there any mention of accountability if we were to be relegated? Are they reviewing his work in the transfer windows in the last few months? Is there an understanding that some fans are prepared to give up their season tickets unless this person is removed from the club, and if so, are the club prepared to back DF and lose these fans in the process? 

    Fans are looking for transparency and the statement released offers none of it. 

    I would be very surprised if the recruitment process over the last 2 seasons is not reviewed, What changes will be made is a matter for conjecture, especially as we have a new manager in place. ST sales determine the player budget related to Fair Play rules. Up to the owners to decide based on their findings and the future situation, but some details will always remain confidential.

     

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    PVFC Meet delegation of fans regarding current concerns

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    1 hour ago, Wozza4England said:

    Bloody hell, it’s like being in Kindergarten. 
     

    “It wasn't organised by the club nor were the participants selected by the club”

    Patrick Shanahan was a participant.

    Nor were the participants selected by the club.

    Deduction - the club didn’t select Patrick Shanahan.

    It’s been pointed out Patrick Shanahan was selected by the club.

    That is how I misinterpreted it.

    Got it?

     

    I didnt say the club selected Patrick(owner`s son)

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    PVFC Meet delegation of fans regarding current concerns

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    So the supporters group insisted that Patrick Shanahan was present but declined to invite the man responsible for everything that touches the football and is the target for 95% of fan’s derision??? Sorry Rob but I’m not buying that.
    Who said that Patrick Shanahan's presence was requested. In a meeting with the owner, it is up to the owner to decide who they wish to assist.

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    PVFC Meet delegation of fans regarding current concerns

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    Is it just me or has the dynamic changed behind the scenes?
    "Darren Moore and his team will work closely with David Flitcroft". Not the other way round. Do I detect a behind the scenes coup?
    The time to establish your working arrangements is when you sign your contract, Moore is familiar with establishing transfer power. I think he will get his way or someone will go.


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