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We need an effective recruitment system, who controls it, does not matter. Whether it changes every time the first team manager changes or whether it is coordinated with the academy/junior system is a matter of choice. Really depends on the size of the club and where the funding comes from. Vale are expecting the academy to supply far more players than previously, but it wiĺl take a few more years for that to happen.Would be interesting to compare if we went without one. Pros and cons for both.
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QPR February form W3 D1 L1, including 2 away wins, thus in a run of form. More hopeful than Vale before the game? Leicester point lead dropped from 12 to 3 in 2 weeks, problems too.Correct.
Leicester away was a free hit for relegation battling QPR today. Guess who won. I guess their players didn't consider it a free hit.
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What is this £180M rumour?Past caring about that. Look I think Carol is a great person, but this saved the club lark has worn thin. That’s a gross exaggeration. She can with her £180m do more than bankroll a mid table league 2 squad.
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Has he had the chances Stockley had on Tuesday night?
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59 minutes ago, Vtid said:
You’d think these are the sort of questions baggers & bowers would be asking but nope they just ask the same questions whilst answering it for them
Quad problem?
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12 minutes ago, Shropshire_Valiant said:
The point I'm making though is how do you rank the teams in Division 3 N & S as above or below each other?🤔 So technically is it not 27th out of 66 in 1931(although there were 88 league clubs). Whereas our 8th place finish in 1996/97 was 28/92.
Like I say it's splitting hairs in one sense as they were very different eras each with their own pros and cons(I don't think all the teams were pro. in the 30s as one example, maybe Division 1 but after that?). It's also difficult to know what the strength of the Vale team was in the late 20s/early 30s compared to those of the 50s and 90s.
The Vale were in the 2nd Division so ranking of teams in the 3rd Divisions did not affect them. The point was the highest league position counting from the top. If 3 results had gone the other way Vale would have played in the highest league in the land. As for comparison of teams, the 30/31 team was my father`s favourite over the 54 side and of a higher standard. The 54 was my favourite, but obviously the 90s were a higher standard. Overall the type of football changes over the years, as does the relative wealth of clubs in the English Leagues.
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32 minutes ago, Shropshire_Valiant said:
Were there not only 3 divisions(or at least levels to the league system) in 1931 though and less 'league' clubs(2 third divisions that were the same level north and south)? I know it's splitting hairs and is historically our highest league finish but I always thinks it's difficult to compare the 2 eras(i.e1920s/30s to the 1990s) as there are a lot of variables.
1930/31 there were 4 Divisions, 1, 2 , 3S & 3N. 22 teams in each. Vale finished 5th in Div2 , so the 27th team in the English League. Nowadays a team finishing 5th in the Championship would be ranked 25th.
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We had a Reserve team, B team, and A team. No academy.
Back in the day it was Lol Hamlett with an old bladder and a bucket of cold water how times have changed.
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Head of Recruitment Tommy Johnson still shown in the First Team ?
Just looked.
We have the following
Head of Physical Performance
Head of Medical Performance
First Team Head of Analysis
Sports Scientist
First Team Physiotherapist
Sports Therapist
First Team Analyst
A Director of Football
No mention of a recruitment team
This does not include Manager, Assistant Manager and Football Coaches.
Wonder if too many cooks spoil the broth ?
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The whole point of the January transfers. If your points targets are not safe, strengthen where you need to, either for promotion chances or to avoid relegation.Not quite convinced. This season was basically a repeat of last year. Crosby did well til Christmas and it crashed down, so did Clark. The real problems are a lack of investment.
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Isn't Ryder supposed to ensure that the youngsters integrate with the first team? Surely, he would have watched the first team and analysed their play as a coach.Here comes the nonsense positivity! He’s not good enough I don’t even need to see any more games to tell me that. Clueless, Ryder wouldn’t of done any work with the senior players before he got the interim job it’s excuses again & again I’m sick of it. The crap the gaffer is coming out with is ridiculous
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Ryder would know the players better, Moore would expect his number 9 to score that chance. There is no time for pre-season adjustments.Have to agree that it appears that Will Ryder got more of a reaction from the players than Moore has. That 2nd half was indescribabley poor.
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39 minutes ago, Jeffporthill said:
The pitch is better now than ever, you should have seen it 30 years ago it had no grass on it. Look at Tottenham game. Don’t complain about it now it’s like a bowling green compared to then.
Climate change is resulting in warmer and wetter weather, thus improved drainage was required. Irrigation to be improved and possibly a hybrid pitch later.
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Don't expect Haaland, at £200M out of range.180 million fantastic for them
Stop Carol grief will ya it's the players (some not all ) that are bringing about the demise in the club .
Love Carol you enjoy it love
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Which will be the Campus and infrastructure that lasts longer than footballers?The rumour that said this was happening also said the Shanahans were going all in on Vale and wanted to ‘leave a legacy’.
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3 minutes ago, Wrex said:
Pretty standard for a manager to privately say he'll be in a better position to work out the squad of players he is working with after a few games. Daft to think he'd had them figured out from watching old games on video or having a look in training.
But it's just Carol making retrospective targets again to justify failure. It doesn't matter in this instance, but it is the director of football achieving all of his retrospective targets that is the problem.
Didn't DM say give me 3 games, everyone will start from scratch or similar words? How many games did it take DC?
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Apparently, 3 games are sufficient for him to assess the players. But as usual, injuries will restrict his options. Were some players kept back to be fit for Tuesday?OK here's my team we have to score we have to lift the moral around the place as it stinks.
Ripley
Plant Debrah Lopaco Icavetti
Sang Garrity Chislett Mighten
Wilson Loft
No point worrying about defending we have to win .
Take the players out who clearly do not want play because Crosby got sacked .
It's clear as day with some .
Hopefully, Moore has seen it
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Carol Shanahan has an OBE not a MBE
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Set piece, hopefully DM has some tricks up his sleeve for Smithy?1-0. Cheltenham! Matty Taylor at it again ffs
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4 hours ago, darren1810 said:
Neil Harris reportedly going back to Millwall from Cambridge.
Don't think it will derail Cambridge enough to get dragged into it.
Maybe give us a better chance of 3 points at the end of April if still of consequence?
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Would have been like playing at MK. Stoke afraid of us appearing to be equals.billy bell and coates didnt want to share a ground !! madness imho 40000 all seater inbetween us !! fantastic ! i wanted it to happen
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Bell had the chance on Festival Park, but it was too expensiveNew stadium needed years ago funded with the council. That has passed.
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Rudgie on the pitch at HT
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Seem to be using long throws in the last 3rd lately, I assume our analysts will pick up.Reading always play with four at the back so it's important we don't go with something stupid like one man up front.
I saw them away at Wigan and they've kicked on a lot since then but I didn't see anything that worried me in that game.
Andy Yiadom was excellent that said, and if we've got Connor Grant down that left side, then Grant's in for a busy and stressful night
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Darren Moore
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Big week for Moore, he now has his Owls coaching team around him, and will have some idea of how his players perform. So a plan to beat Shrews is essential if the ship is to be turned around. Thinking of next season, is it easier to re-build in L2 or L1 ?