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Don't agree at all on Smith. Moore has shown absolutely nothing you're right, but he's got a team of pond life to deal with. Like my original post says, if we keep the majority of them hanging around how are we ever supposed to judge Moore. You can't polish a tu.rd.

Then those upstairs and on the pitch will never know how you really feel. They'll just think you've got something else on. No wonder Carol couldn't believe what Dicko and mark porter told her about how angry and deflated the fan base was in the meeting they had. She's got no clue cause no one can be bothered to voice it.

We we're stupid enough to pay for one of them!

What club in their right mind is going to take a Ryan Loft or Conor Grant for example. If they aren't paid up no one will take them.

Anyone who claps the players off after this season needs to check themselves into the nearest insane asylum. "You're not fit to wear the shirt" should be sung loud and proud from minute 1 to 90

The retained list is going to be a real mark of whether this club and those in charge thereof have regained their senses after 2 seasons that have demoralised the fans this badly. Only once we know who's left, will we know what sort of a season we're going to have next year.

We won't even make the playoffs, let alone the title.

Hope your recovery goes well.

I've got huge reservation about next year. 1) A bloated squad full of national league players who have another year left on their contract. 2) A manager who's shown very little in the time he's been here being given total control over football operations (if my understanding of the wording in carols statement is correct). 3) An owner who has openly admitted she knows nothing about football operations and doesn't seem to learn from mistakes. Hopefully we'll have a decent budget for that level, but little room to maneuver given the number of awful players tethered to us for another year. We were already shopping in random markets like new Zealand because we can't afford to keep up with top end league 2 teams (in flickwanks own words) so God knows where Moore is going to be looking for players in the summer. Luckily with Mansfield, Wrexham and Stockport going up, L2 looks pretty weak. That being said, I'd be absolutely gobsmacked if we even make the playoffs next year.

She "learned her lessons" last year. So did flickwank. Look where it's got us. Worried for next year

She lost me when she backed Moore again. Loyalty Carol backing the wrong horse again.

Must be hell in lancytonys house tonight, been missing for weeks since Flitcroft stopped paying him to post on here and now we're down and all his ramblings from the season look mental.

Replace Smith with Lowe and your bob on. Add Sang.

I agree that all that gimpy management speak about "championship ready" "want need expect" etc is so cringe now in the cold light of day that I'd imagine she's pretty embarrassed. Transparency though, I disagree. We as fans have reasonably frequent access to people like Matt Hancock and flickdick via fans forums and supporters club meetings. 1 month ago she sat down with the dicko, Mark porter and so on to hear there concerns and a week later she sacked the moron. Outside of a Sunderland till I die style documentary, I'm not sure what more we can ask for.

My two pence. I think anyone seriously calling for Carol's head really really needs to take a long hard look at where we were under Smurf and where we are now. On the pitch it's absolutely garbage, Carol is not a football expert and employed an absolute ball bag to oversee football operations who spent loads of money on terrible players and terrible managers. The only fault I place at her door is that she was too loyal both to flickdick and Crosby (although in hindsight what could he do with the utter maggots in the squad we've got). Off the pitch, we've got toilet issues, but we've also got a lot of positive stuff going on. The Academy is flying, due to competent people being put in place to run it in will ryder. Toilets aside we are making improvements in our facilities year on year. She's not perfect, but the accounts alone show that we are absolutely indebted to her both for positive cash flow and for saving us from Smurfs greedy mits. Were all angry right now, she put our squad building in the hands of a charlatan and he's delivered a relegation for us. But be careful what you wish for trying to chase her out.

Who even cares anymore. Just hurry up and get relegated so we can put this miserable season behind us.

You've lost me completely here. How does a loan to barclays at a small interest rate mean that a large proportion of losses are interest owed to Carol?

I'd echo Joe's point above. The numbers look scary, but it's not out of the ordinary. Clubs with positive balance sheets are very much in the minority. As long as someone is willing and able to prop you up, it's basically the route you have to take.

All loans too carol and or related companies are interest free, according to the notes. So none of the losses relate to interest owed to Carol or her kids.

PORT VALE FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED filing history - Find and update company information - GOV.UK FIND-AND-UPDATE.COMPANY-INFORMATION.SERVICE.GOV.UK Anymore interested can find the info here

The club have released the accounts for the year ending June 2023, Kieran Maguire usually does a deep dive on club accounts so that might be out later today but the highlights (or lowlights) include: 1) Total losses for the year - £3,396,024 2) Cash balances dropped by £635,737 to £185,931 3) Monies owed to the Shanahans or there related companies up £2,899,240 to £8,451,296 4) Average number of employees up by 73 to 319 people 5) Loans and other borrowing owed to bank up slightly to 121k

It's officially official

Just another vintage performance served up by the dreges of the football league that Flitcroft managed to pull together. Pathetic group of footballers, most of which wouldn't get a hire in the National League. We've been shown tonight what league one steady is and these fraudsters are miles away.

He should not be playing in L1. He's no where close to ready. At least Dipepa and Shorrock show a bit of willing. The fact that we are begging him to sign a contract is laughable. There's no way the rumours of stoke can be true, he'll be lucky to get a contract with baisingstoke when we bin him in summer.

Ryan Loft, Gavin Massey, Jason Lowe, Rhys Walters,connor grant. Get in your cars after the game and don't come back. The epitome of dross.