eh up nah

I was physically stiff, sore and tired on Sunday from a heavy delivery shift on Saturday night but IAM in my 50's, not an athlete, not got a team of professionals managing my diet, lifestyle, fitness, minutes etc and the very lowest paid earns more than 4x my weekly wage and I work 7 hours a shift not 2 hours (being generous for warm ups etc). For the record, I don't agree that playing Friday should have left them too tired for today Just get sick and tired of the "they get loads of money so they can't ever underperform" thing

Come on what? If someone paid me a million quid to run a marathon I'd do it but I guarantee I'd <ovf censored> at the end

I seriously doubt the cash dictates if you're tired or not. But it is a piss poor excuse nontheless

Shot ourselves in the foot today. A point would've been brilliant for confidence, gained on Cheltenham and Burton and just kept the run of picking points up going. They were nothing, think going a goal down killed us. Cambridge look like they've pulled away and I can just see Cheltenham winning that game in hand to make the last day a virtual formality. We're still in it...just, but we've done ourselves no favours today.

This is exactly what I mean Two decent finishes for us Probably seen 2/3 decent halves of football from him. The rest I've felt really sorry, angry even, that we've had to put him in the situation we have. All of a sudden he's going man United. It ain't right.

Crazy what we do with youngsters now. It's good for us that we've got him contracted for two years. He could go to United and stay there 3/4 years and set himself up for life. To be absolutely fair to Baylee he seems a really grounded, sensible lad. So he may go and develope and still be motivated to make a career after that. May even end up in the 0.00008% it actually works out for and get that career at a united or wherever. On the whole though, that model and the way we treat our youngsters is awful imo. I hope he goes and does tremendously well, ideally we get 3/4 great seasons from him. But some of the stuff I've seen, even from mates of mine, is way ott.

Wouldn't bank on Barnsley. I think they must hate us to be honest. Double over us this season including the infamous 7.0. Lost at home to sodding Cambridge today. Think they've got an 8 point cushion in 5th as well

Shows how far we've come We were 100% down after fleetwood in my head

Sounds like you've got it smashed Patrick Wonder they stuck you in the hot seat with that level of strategic thinking

The more I look at it the more it looks like we've actually got a sniff. The hope really does kill you!

It's one step forward regards the summer. He had to go, and I'm glad he has. I don't see how DF could've headed up the recruitment after three straight failed windows. As with players, depends who comes in now. We've certainly got to turf some out first.

I know what he used to say mate Guys a snake, end of

One of the main culprits in that being your avatar

Sad and utterly incredible in equal measure that one guy has managed to bring all down from that to this. Is she really that daft?

I feel ill watching that. I was so optimistic then that we were in the right hands. Obviously I wasn't there when the guys from b&g went in there and i know they came out saying they still felt that was the case. I'm far, far from convinced now. Carol Obviously needs someone to be running the football side but how she can't see that what's going on now is wrong and has failed just absolutely beggars belief. I keep telling myself she's not stupid. She can't be. But she is demonstrating sheer stupidity at the moment and has been for pretty much a year at least. Sickening where we are now, worse that I can't see a way out of it.

Moore is either a stop gap and he'll <ovf censored> off in the summer or he's genuinely here because he knows something we don't and can't wait for the season to be over. I think first ones more likely. He's definitely got no rapport with these players

She can sell up for me mate Got no confidence she's going to oversee the summer overhaul we need

I bet they're so <ovf censored> angry they're all in tomorrow for a flat white

Everything's dreadful mate The whole sad lot

It'll be a shisha and a bubble tea tonight in there. It's a complete joke of a club

The nicey nicey approach is all we know at Vale I'm genuinely embarrassed by what we've become and what we put out. It's just criminal. The guy on radio stoke after that said the soul has been ripped out was dead right. The club is a complete and utter nothing at the moment. And that's what hurts most. I could've taken a relegation if we'd had a real go. Made signings based on actual logic that just didn't work out. Threw heart and passion at it and still got beat. I can take those things. We don't give a flying <ovf censored> about where we are. Flitcrofts inept, Carol doesn't care. She'd rather leave him to it and watch Vale rot than actually act and put it right. He'll be the one recruiting in the summer and I think we're <ovf censored>. Carol will take this club into non league.

El Presidente hasn't been arsed about Vale for many, many years mate. Wouldn't even clas him as a fan personally

Or??? <ovf censored> or??? Flitcroft could have no complaints if he was physically dragged out