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  1. When I first got married We lived in Hartshill and Tony delivered the Sentinel, I took the paper off him and turned to the back page "Stoke are we" he said with utter disdain " No Vale" he laughed and said " I hate Stoke" I saw him last month and we chatted for ages about the Vale, the Sproson statue and of course his utter contempt for Stoke he laughed about the scrapes he used to get in when he was younger following the Vale, I knew he was struggling with his health, he never mentioned it because he was too busy talking Port Vale and Tommy Mac. and how the club was unrecognisable now under Carol & Co. As he said to me when I dropped him off " We're all Vale aren't we" Port Vale has lost another good supporter.
    13 points
  2. I’d like to say well done to the PVFC staff and all those who volunteered and gave up their Saturday morning to make sure this game went ahead. Brilliant 👏👏
    11 points
  3. Read elsewhere that the wonderful Tony Boult passed away last night. Tony was a great lad.Very well respected,a devoted Vale fan who put a lot of time and effort into his beloved club and the Sproson statue that has pride of place right outside the main entrance of the club.He will be fondly remembered and sorely missed by many.RIP Tony no more suffering the pain and suffering is now over.You can and will watch Vale from your heavenly seat.
    10 points
  4. That's my view. Will be a fun atmosphere but we have a job to do - dispatching a mid-table team at home with minimal fuss. Their manager is banging on about 'the players will know how much this game means to the club' (😂), and on their forums one lad claims he has 'never hated anyone, ever, as much as Clarke'. Not Bin Laden. Not a serial killer. Not James Corden. A manager who left for another football club. He is genuinely sat at home on a Monday night, Corrie on the telly, seething; filled with deep hatred (unmatched before in his life) for a manager who left over 6 months ago and has barely given Walsall a second thought. He doesn't want Walsall to win for the 3 points, or to beat us; he wants to win so he can beat Clarke specifically. Someone has said their players will 'become heroes' if they win. Heroes! Build the statue! If we win they'll get clapped off and we'll have moved on to the Hartlepool game before we reach our cars. They've well and truly lost their heads, falling deep into a rabbit hole of DC-hatred. Their season is probably finished already and this is all they've got; contrived anger at a manager who was working in a set up that wasn't great, and left for a better one. A manager they didn't want anyway, and were grateful we took him off their hands. 'Cheers for the Compo!', they declared. They hate their owner but also hate DC's assertion that he's come to a better-run club. Pick one, lads. Either your owner is bad and DC is right, or DC is wrong and your owner is good. I've never before been so baffled at a collective group losing sanity as violently as they have, but if it gives their season a bit of meaning, good luck to them. DC's approach is spot on in that it's another game, a good opportunity to put Saturday right, and no more. I am truly astounded at their head loss, and hope their players take a similar 'do or die' mentality tonight. We've had managers leave before - Rob Page went to a divisional rival for the exact same reason Clarke did; he was working in a poor set-up. We didn't react like this, and we all view him pretty positively/would never give him stick. Micky left mid-season and derailed a title charge and was welcomed back as a hero. Something seriously wrong down in Walsall. They've whipped this up into something that has genuinely given their fans sleepless nights. Mad.
    10 points
  5. I'm not getting involved in the Covolan Legend debate as I'm too busy putting my purple I LUV LUCAS jim jams on 😁👍
    9 points
  6. We’ve got irons in the fire for January. Clarke: ”We are already on it. I have an unbelievable director of football, Flickers (David Flitcroft). We are ahead of recruitment. I know now what business I want to be doing. That is what this club should look like in my opinion, having one or two things that in every window needs to be freshened up. Certainly with one or two injuries in the front line, you look at, that needs to be freshened up. We are working hard. We have Tommy (Johnson) head of recruitment. He is a top man at his work. This is fair play to the owners yet again, backing this to keep building that profile so you are not making those last minute phone calls to try to get deals done. We are working hard to make sure the tweaks that need to be made in the window, in the next six weeks, we are ready for it.” Sounds promising.
    9 points
  7. He's second only to Sproson in my view, and another 1-2 clean sheets/faux pulled hamstring should push him over the top. 1 - Sproson 2 - Covolan 3 - Rudge 4 - John McCombe Will not be debating this. The facts are very clear on the matter.
    9 points
  8. Nah. We were rubbish. We’re not a very good side at all. We’re about where you were three years ago. Looking down rather than up. Which in part is why Darrell left us - we are a club in decline and he knew he couldn’t stop it, whereas you are a club on the up and therefore a better prospect for him. Fairs. Just hoping Taylor can create a foothold somewhere half way up/down this awful league before taking us forward. As you know - it’s a long road back when you’ve been managed poorly from the top to the bottom of the club. Well done on your win today. Small rot stopped. See you in April. 👍🏼
    8 points
  9. FT 2-0. Well done, Vale. Depleted squad, confidence low, poor conditions, it's a good three points. Next game, Smudger and Conlon back, Proctor (hopefully) not too far off and we have a break from League action. Starting to look up again.
    7 points
  10. Worrall has been a shadow this season of what we know he is capable of. He is being asked to play so deep most games that it negates his obvious strength in playing more forward to create havoc in opponents defences. He has been substituted more often now due simply to his ineffectiveness in games. I can also add that Conlon too has been asked to play more in areas we know he is far less effective. Both these players when allowed to forage forward are 2 of Vales best players to change and control games. Ok, we have achieved a good tally of points so far but if truth be known there are a massive amount of Valiants who would prefer to watch Worrall and Conlon actually play regularly in their most dangerous positions. Surely within the squad we possess others that can carry out the tasks they are now given?
    7 points
  11. Spot on, especially Wozza up front, doing what he does best rather than trying to defend crosses into our box. He's our leading assist player for goodness sake and we need him on the front foot and putting some fear into opposing defences. Fortune favours the brave.
    7 points
  12. Why on earth would anybody willingly drop Garrity? He gives us drive from midfield that no other player does and has been largely excellent this season. Beggars belief to me
    7 points
  13. I can understand what Martin was trying to do - there is a man behind him and if the ball isn't cut out it's a tap in. He makes an instinctive decision and it happens to fly in the one place we didn't want it to. It happens. There does seem a tendency to attack individuals for issues - the goals on Saturday were the result of a litany of mistakes; a failure to clear lines properly (like Smith v Bradford), a failure to win the cliched 'second ball', people losing their markers (Cass for the first goal). Everyone, including my beloved Lucas, plays a part in the failure to defend goals like Saturdays. It was a group failure. It's very easy and sometimes gratifying to say 'Martin, worse centre half in 50 years, all his fault', because he's the fella who's launched it into the top corner, but if Legge doesn't give away the free kick, if any of the three attempted clearances by Legge, Legge + Rodney, and Gibbons actually clear the ball, if Taylor throws his body in front of the shot instead of sticking his foot in and turning his back, Martin doesn't need to make a snap decision to throw his head at the ball to stop the man behind from scoring. Alas; Martin's fault. Worst I've seen.
    7 points
  14. I think it's more the 'extrapolate out from this game to form conclusions' whilst ignoring the fact we're third in the table, coming off great form, and doing very well. Yesterday, ala Sutton, was infuriating as we should have won and threw the game away. Fans came onto OVF decrying the defence and predicting difficult times. We then went 7 unbeaten, winning 5, regularly scoring 3/4/5 and DC was manager of the month for the second month in a row. I think people aren't saying 'get a grip, yesterday was good', more that 'get a grip, yesterday was bad but we're a good team coming off an unsustainably good run of form and sometimes things in football go against you'. The concept that we'd maintain a run of 1 defeat in 12 for much longer is naive and eventually luck goes against you, as with Martin hammering the ball into his own net. That's how I read it. 2 defeats in 13 doesn't warrant some of the reaction on here. The manner of defeat wound people up into overreaction. Undoubtedly we need to tighten up. Needs to be put right on Tuesday. Until then, chill.
    7 points
  15. Thought Hartlepool were very very poor & didn't seem to have a single player who looked 6 ft plus, which made it even more mind boggling when we took stupid short corner & free kick routines. Our decision making at times is atrocious. I didn't think we looked great today, but of course you take a steady 2-0 win all day long. The worrying thing for me is that we look nowhere near it up top. Amoo trys hard but he is never ever a striker. Rodney continues to look poor & at one point Garrity looked our most dangerous offensive player. Really worrying. A better side would've brushed us aside today. January can't come soon enough. We're desperate for some attacking reinforcements now with Wilson & Proctor out. It's not just getting them over their injuries, they'll also need time to get back match fit. I think we could be looking at mid Jan by time they're both back in contention & that's if neither of them have any recurrence of their injuries. Potentially need to stack the midfield with quality & play 1 up top until we actually have some strikers. Politic, Worrall, Conlon, Pett, Walker would be a great 5. Plenty of attacking/goal threat without the need to play somebody out of position, like we're doing with Amoo at the moment. Hopefully we can get a couple back for the busy Xmas schedule.
    6 points
  16. 6 points
  17. I have to agree with many on here that collectively that was one of the worst games by a Vale squad I have had the misfortune of witnessing in many, many, many years of supporting the Club. Gutless, clueless, unacceptable, shocking, dire....call it what you like, there is a frustrating common denominator about being a Valiant and that is your side will continually let you down when the horizon appears to be beckoning. No excuses last night. Walsall were up for it as everyone knew days before kick off. Vale simply hid in a spineless shell throughout the 90 minutes and no one can escape any criticism aimed at them for their totally inept peformances. I am still bewildered as to how a unit can produce so many goals and super performances over the past few months and then turn into a dumfounded mess of crap. Football gets you doesn't it and I assume the majority of us will still throw our hard earned money away chasing rainbows for the sake of Port Vale FC. We must be mad. My heart goes out today to Carol and Kevin who must have started to believe the impossible after their sterling efforts to ressurect a Club from oblivion. As fans and owners they must be embarrassed as we all are.
    6 points
  18. Where to start withnthat tonight?? Yes we were utterly dreadful and made so many individual errors (Jones, Cass, Garrity) but we could been in front at half time. Firstly what was Worrall doing when their defender missed his header and left him with the keeper to beat only for him to decide to try and lay Amoo in. Then Amoo has 5 yards on the last man and decides to stroll towards goal and let the muscle bound centre half catch up with him As for the referee, yes he was poor and typical of the type we get at our level now but it can't have been a shock given his previous card happy games this season. I sat there laughing at our feeble attempts to get a foothold back into the game. Walsall were awful but bullied our precious ones out of that game. That must go into my top 5 pathetic performances over a 50 year period of support. It used to ruin my night but really can't give a **** now
    6 points
  19. Well that was awful tonight, people on here moaning about the referee, it wasnt him who was responsible for passing the ball to Walsall players and kicking it out of play every 30 seconds. We were second to every ball, they wanted it more than we did. That was the worst performance I have seen for a long time, equally as bad as anything under Askey. As bad as we were tonight, what annoyed me the most was our awful support, 4700 home fans when 3rd in the league against local rivals. I keep hearing from our fans on here what a big club we are but our home support is shocking, yes we take great numbers away but at home after one bad result they all stay away. When we needed the supporters behind us, they were no where to be seen. If that was Crewe and they had that support at home, we would have been laughing like anything.
    6 points
  20. Can't agree with your crass stupidity comment. Proctor had been out for five weeks and had been in training. He came on for 20 minutes the other night which is a reasonable action to take when bringing a player back from injury. I think he was just unlucky.
    5 points
  21. He keeps picking the ball up and throwing it backwards. But I’m not going to argue with a World Cup winner.
    5 points
  22. Thought Rodney did oright actually, as he did when he came on against Walsall. I agree that as a striker he should be finding the net more, but his hold up and distribution is generally good. Still - it's way easier to s**t on the Vale for you after a win rather than try and take on positives and get behind the lads. It's the squad depth that got us that win in conditions that are the same for both teams. We're desperate for 'fans' like you to calm down, in my opinion.
    5 points
  23. We haven’t become a bad side , we are just missing our 4 best players . Simple as that . Grind out a win and it will be job done . If we don’t , I won’t overreact . Promotion isn’t won in November.
    5 points
  24. Just remembered these hate Covolan. He simply must be backed as the club legend that he is.
    5 points
  25. The club has done loads to attract the next generation of fans including the stonking season ticket offers for kids. I suspect if you ask most fans what should be a priority, more money spent on the squad or on a family stand most would opt for the former. The Shanahans have done more around the ground in two years than the previous owners did in twenty two. They will get the family stand sorted but they can't do everything at once.
    5 points
  26. To be fair, he's played 109 minutes of league football for us. That's 100 minutes more than some Vale fans need to judge a player and come to an informed decision which cannot be questioned
    5 points
  27. Exactly that. This is what really pissed me off last night. Players make mistakes , it happens. Jones made a bad one for the goal, there were many others in the game all over the pitch, we just didn't concede a goal from them which is why other players have not been called out. Everyone will have have a bad spell at some point but to lack energy, drive,passion,determination, work hard and a will to win was embarrassing. What really concerned me about last nights performance though most of all there was not 1 player on the pitch demanding more of his team mates in that 1st half. The players mostly had head on the ground accepting what was happening and it was eerily silent. Not a good sign.
    5 points
  28. Time to switch off from the Vale till the weekend. After 57years supporting them you'd think I'd get used to it. But I haven't. 😬
    5 points
  29. One of the worst posts on here in a long time.
    5 points
  30. Absolutely diabolical and I cannot defend it. Got it massively wrong and hold my hands up - people I criticised were spot on. The worst Vale performance since Aspin. Utterly absymal in every regard. Clarke overthought his lineup and decided on Conlon on the right wing. What? Knew we were done as soon as he started chucking forwards on with no plan - sign of a panicking manager. Everyone rubbish and Conlon was daft to pick up two yellows. Not a shot on target. Dan Jones has fallen off a cliff. The pass for the goal was bad enough, but his decision to fly in and leave Smith 2 v 1 was criminal and he needs dropping. Garrity is no footballer. Every touch is poor. They've turned up, outfought us, taken their only chance, and defended well against a pitiful front line from us. Had our trousers down and deserved their win. Defensively a good side and impressed with the composure of the keeper. Rubbish going forward and to only win 1-0 should disappoint them. A good side would have nailed us 3/4-0. After the run we were on, the dip was coming, and we're well and truly in the mix of one now. We went on a 5 game winless run in November of the last promotion season. They happen. Clarke is a streaky manager and he has to arrest this pronto before it becomes full-scale crisis. Proctor looked unfit and needs to be carefully managed back, as we cannot afford a setback. I still think we're going to do well. Tonight was a horrendous, horrendous showing from minute 1, but bad runs were inevitable and we need to ride it out. Hopefully we react to 2 defeats in the same way we'd react to 2 wins. This isn't things falling apart, but a big warning sign that we need to sharpen up.
    5 points
  31. I must say I cannot stand Sproson on the radio, his commentary is so biased because of his role as an agent and it really gets on my nerves.
    5 points
  32. I've been lucky enough to live and work mostly with all kinds of people. I have found them all nice and decent. Just like us, Nutters are nutters sadly. The vast majority just go about their business doing what people do. Love your partner, look after your kids and be a good person. Job done. That is what people naturally do.
    5 points
  33. Not saying he's good, just saying we've had some pure tripe in the last 5 years alone significantly worse than Martin.
    5 points
  34. For fans who were famously 'not arsed' that DC left + and chuffed with the compensation, Walsall fans seem really obsessed with turning up and letting him know very clearly that they are definitely 'not arsed'. Right. If they just admit their feelings were hurt by a divisional rival taking their manager, him saying he'd come to a better club, and then doing a pretty good job there whilst they flounder in a worse position than when he left, then we move on and they can get back to their real business of existing to serve as the foundations of a big billboard. Be a lot of 'grown men' antics tomorrow. Real horrorshows for otherwise respectable, bland fellas who will be back in the office 9am Wednesday. What football is all about imo. Steve the accountant (47), 3 kids, offering out the Paddock after 2 dark fruits. Yes! I'd go with this, though DC won't: Legend Cass Legge Smith Worall Pett Conlon Gibbo Amoo Lloyd Politic (DC will go same as Saturday, with Smith in for Martin). Amoo and Politic are the main threats playing as wide forwards, and Lloyd's job would be to scamper about being a nuisance, foraging in the 6 yard box. Pett and Conlon sit deep so we don't go hoof, and link up with the wing-backs and wide forwards. I'm being really harsh on Jones BUT I worry about Wilkinson in the air off the right, at the back stick, against him. He's been great and he walks back into the team next game, but get Smith tight to Wilkinson. They've got pure lumps at centre half so get some pace at them with the front three. Monthe can't turn, Ward is in his late 50s, and Khan is a winger turned fullback. Get Gibbo rampaging past him and Politic and Amoo causing general havoc. Lloyd will win freekicks aplenty against these. Get at Labadie as he's a walking red card. A target for Smith's antics imo. Gibbo is the main man here. I think he's our best player and we need to build play to get him open on the left. Goal and assist on Saturday. Get the ball at his feet. I'm not as pessimistic as one or two on here as we're still in the run of some of the best form in professional football, but I think it's fair to say I'd like to see a nice defensive display (only 1 clean sheets in our last 7). Last thing I'll say is part of the collapse on Saturday was caused by a general retreat after the subs of Worrall and Garrity. We sat in and both Politic and Rodney were playing wide, leaving a chasm up top and therefore no outlet when we cleared lines. Peppered for the last 10-15 = goals. We were controlling possession before but lost control after. Maintain control. Keep good players on. It might be reassuring to have lots of lovely defenders on but imo keep the attacking players on as then we dominate possession and aren't forced to contend with aerial bombardment. As always; into these.
    5 points
  35. Hope when DCs clapping the railway after we win that he knee slides in front of the Hamil end.
    5 points
  36. I'm amazed at the number of Smallsall fans supposed to be coming to this match, to give abuse to a manager they didn't want and don't rate? I'm also amazed / disappointed at the number of alleged fans who haven't posted since we last lost, crawling out of the woodwork, again, following another - unmerited - defeat? How can you call yourself a fan when you only celebrate us losing?
    5 points
  37. I wasn't going to say anything as I think most of what has been said is fair. Yesterday was dissapointing but we absolutely bossed the game until they tried the only thing avaiable to them - lump it into the box and hope. For me, if Devante had of put the chance away that he somehow skied, they would not have come back into it. Not that I blame him for the loss, its just that it was the easiest of the chances we had to put the game to bed. My beef is with the ratings on the front page.... Sorry, but that is harsh. 2 marks lower than any of the other starters - really? Jones and Cass as the people either side of the middle man and who are allowed to come forward get 5 and 6's... Where was Cass for the first? Didn't show much strength for the second either. Yet somehow its Martin who is to blame? Come on, stop scapegoating. We let three goals in and unfortunately the third was another bizzarre own goal. He tried to do the right thing and instinctively throw himself at the ball to prevent the scuffed shot going towards the net. Right attitude, unlucky.. I thought he did a decent job for someone coming back into the side. I love our sprit, I love that we are playing football. The worst team got away with it yesterday. Good luck to them. They need it.
    5 points
  38. Because you post so much <ovf censored>
    5 points
  39. I stand by the view that if we play like that every week, we go up. We've played much worse than yesterday and scored 4 or 5. We were miles better for a larger part of the game yesterday than we were against Accrington for example, when we scored 4 in the last 20 minutes after a red card, after probably being 2nd best. Sometimes weird stuff happens, like Aaron Martin becoming prime van Basten in his own 6 yard box. The weirdness of it all was our inability to deal with crosses came when Leon Legge came on, the exact player many have been calling for to help us to sort out our inability to deal with crosses. If we lose on Tuesday then maybe we do need to look at some larger changes, but until then I think some are engaging in pre-emptive 'this is it now, knew it was too good to last' after 20 years of something similar. Clubs who are more used to success are probably a bit more serene about bumps in the road - we're so used to things going wrong that people take anything amiss as a sign of apocalypse, as confirmation that the little bits of optimism you allowed yourself to feel were foolish. "Just like last season!", I've read. Righto. Into these on Tuesday.
    5 points
  40. Rodders was awful again! I appreciate that he may not be a striker but ‘spiders’’ . Should be looking to get him some National League experience come January. Bring some new players in.
    4 points
  41. That was our 19th League game. A player only gets suspended for 10 bookings or a red. The 5 bookings deadline has now passed.
    4 points
  42. Mate you've been crying about 5 pages worth of posts on the last 3 threads, you literally melt down and cry at the sight of anything not going the way you think it should at a league 2 football team. Let's meet at Scrimmy's and we can see who the snowflakes are when not behind a keyboard. Happy to take any direct messages. I do get that today your team have taken a 1-0 against Blackburn though so must be tough to praise Vale on here afterwards.
    4 points
  43. I think we're playing quite well, certainly 5x better than Tuesday. Back 3 relatively untroubled, front 2 working hard. Garrity is the key man for me so far. He's everywhere and really giving us an attacking impetus. Scary how many people seem to drop him whenever we have a poor result. Playing with the wind in the second half should see us get all 3 points
    4 points
  44. Below, a poem in memory of Tony Boult, compiled by brother of boslem The Vale fans sang at Oldham "There's only one Tony Boult" Then just hours later, the news, one huge jolt The lad from Hartshill & Shelton had followed his Dad To Vale Park, many good times, some sad But not the day Foyle scored the third v Stoke The tears flowed, Father and Son did choke And the first trip to the hallowed turf of Wembley Walking towards the twin towers, knees all trembly The Roy Sproson statues' inspiration and driving force Collecting coins in Tunstall and Burslem of course Undeterred by the small amount gathered in a hurry He said "I'll go out again, we'll make it, dunna worry" Favourite player Tommy McLaren from yesteryear And in terms of fashion, Tone had all the decent gear From the punk days to the skinhead revival era Then towards the full Mod scene Tony got nearer Sharp suits, a motor scooter and classy shiny shoes With the full range of Mod music, too much to choose Growing up with Julie and his folks, he was never bored Later in life came kids and grandkids he totally adored He'd been a hardworking potter back in the day Then a proper son, brother, father and grandad in every way He coined the phrase "We're Vale aren't we" And enjoyed days in Brighton by the sea He was married to Dawn at Vale Park with the Shanahans close by And met the manager beneath a Valiant sky Thank you for the memories-how the time flew Mate, we couldn't help falling in love with you.........
    4 points
  45. Drives me mad. It's not just the substitutions, it's the fact that our leading assists player has been forced into a semi-defensive role and then we wonder why we can't make chances against teams like Walsall. Wozza should have started last night on the right of a front three to give them something to think about but this damned obsession with 532 is nullifying one of biggest strengths. Subbed last night, I'm just hoping he starts on Saturday - up front where he belongs and is at his most dangerous.
    4 points
  46. I think thats the issue. We have become predictable which really surprises me given the fluidity of the formation and personnel earlier in the season. I thought this was our big strength this season and why I had confidence in the squad to do well. Granted we are short up front with Proc and Wils limiting our options but when we are on a roll teams looked at our line up and really didn't know how we would play. It was the same last year during our winning run at the back of the season. Now its easy to see how we will play 1 hour before kick off.
    4 points
  47. Par for the course from the guy. Clueless.
    4 points
  48. Get … a … grip …horrible goals to concede because it looks untidy.. but … we controlled the game , easily the better team. The last goal is pure luck .. it pings around and falls for them . We are 3rd .. we will recover .. might even drop off a few places whilst we have injuries … I’d rather have the push in the last 10 games .. we will be promoted with this squad .
    4 points


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