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All loan deals have mid-season recall clauses as standard. Or are we expecting Premier League clubs to go "League Two Port Vale say they won't take out future captain on loan unless we remove the clause allows us to recall him after five months, better do as they say"? The only way to ensure loan deals last an entire season is for the player to do well enough to play every week, but not well enough to warrant a move to a club in a higher division. That was nearly the case with Devine, but unfortunately Plymouth took a punt on him in January.

We won 9 of 26 games with Arblaster

Only 2 games won when both Arblaster and Devine started the games. Northampton and Wigan at home. Great potential but poor decisions ultimately from the club to allow deals where they could go back in January. Lessons for the future when loaning players. Devine only looked good once Arblaster got injured in the Middlesbrough game and was struggling to hold down a place until then Sent from my XQ-CC54 using onevalefan mobile app

How do you work that out ? we hardly won a game with Ollie and Devine playing. Sent from my SM-A217F using onevalefan mobile app

He was right though, we DID need to be the fittest club in the league. Unfortunately we were probably the unfittest.

Well done Ollie shame we couldn't have kept him we defo wouldn't have gone down . Terrific player with terrific application. Captain material for sure

It’s brilliant for Ollie and fully deserved for him. Not sure if it’s ever happened before but he could potentially end up winning player of the season for two separate clubs this year.

I’m trying to get my head around this post but no being in L1 for us is not like them being in the Prem. On the wider point I suspect the ST figures might be a little lower but not as much as people think. Ultimately though football is the same at every level, if we start winning in L2 then crowds will go up and the feel good factor is back before you know it. If we don’t then it’ll be like it was for the Wycombe game. Some more imagination with matchday pricing wouldn’t be amiss though.

Could be worse - you could be in the Hamil, watching it 🙈🙈🙈🙈😍

I agree and that's what Vale fans do. If it was up to Vale fans, our team next season should be: Manager: Andy Crosby DOF: Tom Pope First team Squad would include: James Wilson, Uche Ikpeazu, David Worrell, Ellis Harrison, Kian Harratt, Matty Taylor And the rest of squad just made up of players that we have tried to sign for the past couple of seasons

Great shout. Hope he gets it. Would be an indicative reflection on the rest of the squad.

I would expect given how everyone was saying what a well run club we were and how lucky we are to have such an amazing owner, we should expect promotion. Anything less would make Carol look a bit crap really.

Must run in the family

You dont think he will be getting far more than Crosby? We were willing to pay more to get an improvement. We havent seen one.

One of the very few highlights of our season was seeing Ollie in a Vale shirt, having such a tremendous influence on games. Undoubtedly our player of the season!

Hotels.com and Booking.com will be overloaded due to people trying to book The George for their big day out.

It was a pleasure to see him in a Vale shirt and I hope he remembers us as much as we will remember him.

I wish people would stop rewriting history. Matty Taylor was getting pelters on here during his spell with us. No one wanted to sign him! Why are people now saying we should have?! Sent from my SM-G981B using onevalefan mobile app

He’s going to be disappointed come the end of next season 😂 I think top 10 would be realistic or a comfortable mid table finish the first season back after a relegation. Obviously a lot will rely on the summer business or lack of in our case, but there’s some decent teams in that league & it’s not going to be easy getting back up. Will take a few years at least for me. Yes there is some poor teams in league 2 but i don’t think it’s half as bad as some make out.

Just seen he is captain for tonights match. Irrespective of whether it is simply a reward etc, it shows the esteem he is held in by the club. Will be gone this summer.

No it wasn’t 😭 why do you keep going on about those down the road. I get your point about attendance but that happens up & down the country with all teams that have a promotion or relegation

Interesting, it works outside the UK. Annoying then.

There's a blackout during games on the internet stream. It won't work.

Have Stoke had a sell out in championship . Did they not lose 12 to 13 thousand fans when got relegated from prem Vale will lose support for sure . Back to 3500 Tues and 4500 sat or 5000 . Thats what I'm getting at .

What? No it wasn't.