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    Matchday Thread: Luton Town v Port Vale

    It is said that the darkest hour is just before the dawn, but what does this game hold for us apart from the floodlights to brighten the gloom. Not much time for injuries to recover or tactics to change.

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    I think this game holds a 3-0 defeat at least.
    I think Brown will be ultra negative trying to get a point, we concede the first, game over

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete vale View Post
    I think this game holds a 3-0 defeat at least.
    I think Brown will be ultra negative trying to get a point, we concede the first, game over
    The trouble is it hasn't worked before.

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    After Luton getting stuffed yesterday I can't see anything but a solid Luton performance and a 3-0 win. Brown OUT

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    Can't stop the rot. 3-0 Luton. Brown to come out with usual excuses. Smurf to get more abuse and dig his heels in more and keeps Brown on. We have one less cup final to save us from relegation.

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    4-0 Luton. No point picking a team as brown will just play 4 centre halves at the back again!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fosse69 View Post
    It is said that the darkest hour is just before the dawn, but what does this game hold for us apart from the floodlights to brighten the gloom. Not much time for injuries to recover or tactics to change.
    Luton was never a good place to go for vale bak in the day when we had a proper club with a proper owner and manager and players so it's definitely a chance to consolidate the bottom of the league spot !!

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    One of them where it's probably better long term that we lose if it sees Brown removed... with that in mind I think we will get a point.

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    If Pope plays it will be "anything - Nil". The main problem is that for some reason he is undropable even though he can't score. When you have a centre forward who can't run, can't shoot, can't find space and can't command centre halfs without jumping into them you have to wonder what attribute he does have. His famed prowess at heading all leaves a lot to be desired at the moment. Some say without service he cant do any thing - yes that is exactly right but the same few blame every other position when things don't go right. Put it on Pope's head and he will score they all cry - well a few times they have and he didn't. Dan Turner is not the solution the Pope Fans say - but he has two more goals than Tom, can run and is learning from his mistakes while Tom is just basking in the memory of his 30 goal season. Tom was a great player for us in the promotion season but he is well past that peak and so predictable. Brown biggest problem is constantly changing the formation and personnel with addressing the one thing that hasn't changed - Tom as centre forward. If we do go down this year it will be with a 100% Vale fan leading the attack who couldn't currently hit a cows arse with a banjo. Oh but we can't say anything against him not doing his job - because he is one of us isn't he . It brought home to me how poor Tom is at present when I saw him in Richard Duffy's pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pensioner View Post
    If Pope plays it will be "anything - Nil". The main problem is that for some reason he is undropable even though he can't score. When you have a centre forward who can't run, can't shoot, can't find space and can't command centre halfs without jumping into them you have to wonder what attribute he does have. His famed prowess at heading all leaves a lot to be desired at the moment. Some say without service he cant do any thing - yes that is exactly right but the same few blame every other position when things don't go right. Put it on Pope's head and he will score they all cry - well a few times they have and he didn't. Dan Turner is not the solution the Pope Fans say - but he has two more goals than Tom, can run and is learning from his mistakes while Tom is just basking in the memory of his 30 goal season. Tom was a great player for us in the promotion season but he is well past that peak and so predictable. Brown biggest problem is constantly changing the formation and personnel with addressing the one thing that hasn't changed - Tom as centre forward. If we do go down this year it will be with a 100% Vale fan leading the attack who couldn't currently hit a cows arse with a banjo. Oh but we can't say anything against him not doing his job - because he is one of us isn't he . It brought home to me how poor Tom is at present when I saw him in Richard Duffy's pocket.
    I said when we signed him we would be lucky to get 10 goals this season out of him and the Pope fans would blame lack of service. I have changed my mind a bit, I think we will be lucky to get 1 goal out of him.

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