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    Tower block fire. Why did it happen?

    POST MOVED FROM TOWER BLOCK FIRE THREAD.

    Unreal that such an incident can occur in Britain 2017.

    Without a doubt, there will be people going to Prison over this.


    Grenfell Action Group: 'We have posted numerous warnings in recent years about the very poor fire safety standards at Grenfell Tower and elsewhere in Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea (RBKC).
    'All our warnings fell on deaf ears. This was inevitable and just a matter of time.'

    The group had been posting about their concerns of tower block's safety regularly calling for it to be torn down before it went up in flames in the early hours of this morning in White City.

    'It is a truly terrifying thought but the Grenfell Action Group firmly believe that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and incompetence of our landlord, the KCTMO, and bring an end to the dangerous living conditions and neglect of health and safety legislation that they inflict upon their tenants and leaseholders.

    'We believe that the KCTMO are an evil, unprincipled, mini-mafia who have no business to be charged with the responsibility of looking after the every day management of large scale social housing estates and that their sordid collusion with the RBKC Council is a recipe for a future major disaster.

    'Unfortunately, the Grenfell Action Group have reached the conclusion that only an incident that results in serious loss of life of KCTMO residents will allow the external scrutiny to occur that will shine a light on the practices that characterise the malign governance of this non-functioning organisation.

    'We believe that the KCTMO have ensured their ongoing survival by the use of proxy votes at their Annual General Meeting that see them returned with a mandate of 98 percent in favour of the continuation of their inept and highly dangerous management of our homes.'
    Last edited by Fosse69; 14-06-17 at 03:36 PM.

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    POST MOVED FROM TOWER BLOCK FIRE THREAD

    Earlier in the year, current Tory chief of staff Gavin Barwell, previously housing minster, delayed a review of tower block safety standards.

    http://www.frmjournal.com/news/news_...ns-review.html
    Last edited by Fosse69; 14-06-17 at 03:37 PM.

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    Tower block fire. Why did it happen?

    Painful interview with the company that did the refurb on GMB but there are wider issues. Delays in govt, recent fines for local authorities such as Southwark. a complacent culture, profiteering, ignoring tenants

    I know we don't know exactly what happened and why but the same message keeps coming g out from different people

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    Little bit to early to point the finger at just yet but definitely worth looking in the direction of...

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    It would appear that the building had the windows double glazed, and the outside cladded a year or so back. How did the cladding get building approval or was it not a seen as a risk?

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    Little bit to early to point the finger at just yet but definitely worth looking in the direction of...
    Some people seem to have made it heir pet project though, and swamped the threads with self-righteous inappropriate posts on it. Might be better just to send condolences and show some dignity for the dead and injured and let those whose job it is investigate it in due course without hysterical rants on here.

    Opening a second thread with this title is not appropriate at all as it only happened hours ago, perhaps better merged ?
    Last edited by Bea Smith; 14-06-17 at 03:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bea Smith View Post
    Some people seem to have made it heir pet project though, and swamped the threads with self-righteous inappropriate posts on it. Might be better just to send condolences and show some dignity for the dead and injured and let those whose job it is investigate it in due course without hysterical rants on here.

    Opening a second thread with this title is not appropriate at all as it only happened hours ago, perhaps better merged ?
    As a compromise, separate threads one for condolences and one for causes gives both angles, I have moved non-condolence posts onto this thread..
    Last edited by Fosse69; 14-06-17 at 03:40 PM.

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    Came across this useful piece: 5 fast facts you need to know about KTCMO, the body that manages Kensington and Chelsea's housing stock:

    http://heavy.com/news/2017/06/kctmo-...ization-cause/

    The senior management of this august body are likely to be in complete panic as the prospect of prison looms its ugly head.

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    One view is that the cladding was added purely to improve the view of the tower block from the surrounding posh areas in Notting Hill, in doing so a gap of 25/30 cm behind the cladding created a chimney effect with devastating effect, The composition of the cladding has not been revealed.

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