kevin_struggles

You may well be right but I hope not, we did that last season and ended up losing players like benning and harrison late on with no time to replace them whilst we kept dross like jones and massey this time Carol has to bite the bullet this is as much her fault as anyone else's so if she has to pay them off she needs to do so the dead wood has to be cut out early doors.

Loft - panics in front of goal Sang - decent crosser of the ball but no pace and weak, weak, weak. Lowe - has been Grant - has been Massey - headless chicken Jones - calamity jones nuff said Clark - sicknote willo - can't hold the ball up, has no pace, doesn't score enough goals the odd party trick pass doesn't make up for the rest of it. ojo - went missing when we needed him so I question his character. I can't see us offering Uche a contract but I recognise what he brings to a team and I think chizzie and garrity will be snapped up quickly by other teams Debrah has potential but jumping two divisions proved too much I thnk he will be ok as a squad player next season Iacovitti will thrive in league two as will smith Not bothered if we keep ripley or not but if we do we need to stop pretending he is a ball player he isnt he's a shot stopper but if I had a choice I would prefer a keeper who dominates his box better coming out and taking catches to take the pressure off etc. There are probably one or two I have forgotten about lurking around who we can offload Dipepa, walters, shorrock, plant and lomax will be great assets if we can keep them and we should be building around them. All the loan players will be gone anyway so not worth mentioning but I will say I wouldn't keep any of them even if I could. Wouldn't be averse to offering worrall and pett one year contracts if they become available but only because they would be terrific squad members to come in as needed. Certainly better than the likes of lowe grant and massey.

I get the impression that some people had their view of DM coloured by the Huddersfield fans without a life who came on FB slagging him off every day for what seemed to be an endless period that's definitely where the people got the childish "erm" criticism from. I have never been a sheep myself I prefer to make up my own mind rather than prove I don't have one by aping fools. You are absolutely right Sir John was not overtly passionate he was softly spoken and a real gentleman on every occasion I met him. Running around, jumping up and down and verbal diarrhea aren't indications of whether someone is passionate though, or indicative of how good a manager they are. Sir John was passionate but he took a more considered approach, plus he had Pejic for the fiery stuff and they made a great team. I have seen plenty of poor managers who were very passionate but completely lacking in tactical nous. My opinion is that AC and DF (I see those two as a double act as they were both very much on the same page) brought in weak minded show ponies who got shown up when we needed to scrap for points and they also failed to bring in the kind of proven goal scorers who can turn a scrappy game into a win. DM simply didn't have the right tools and didn't have a transfer window to even attempt to address our many issues so I will reserve judgement until he has been given something to work with. We were falling apart from winning positions, struggling to score goals and failing to respond when going behind long before he got here, none of that is on him.

Be honest we are not going down because of DM we are going down because we deserve to the players are nowhere near good enough. 2-0 up at half time and people actually think that we threw it away because of something DM said at half time? Lets get real we lost it because we conceded a sloppy goal and then our fragile weak minded players panicked and went to pieces like they always do. There was nobody on the bench who would have made the slightest difference subs haven't made a difference in any game, we go behind we lose its been an issue all season.

Loft was carrying an injury but I think you make my point about the inadequacy of our squad when you suggest that loft would have made a difference. DM doesn't have anyone to bring on who would make a difference, be honest. I don't know if he will work out or not but I think we need to give him a fair shake before we blame him for not turning AC's unfit, weak minded, bunch of crap into decent players.

Some of that is true but I don't think I have ever started a season knowing we were in trouble before a ball was kicked and Ive been supporting them since 1973. I was moaning from the moment ac released the retained list which he got badly wrong and it went downhill from there. It has been a long and difficult season with very few bright spots 10 wins out of 43 games and a minus 30 goal difference is hard to spin as anything but an abysmal season. Its been a slog for all of us so its not surprising that people are struggling to be positive.

I'm not sure he had anyone on the bench who would have made a difference it wasn't tactics that cost us that game it was character, or rather lack of it, and I'm not sure how Moore can change the character of a team without being able to bring any different players in. I'm not saying he is a good manager I have no idea but I don't think we can judge him at the moment because of the dross he has available to him. There are maybe 4/5 players in our entire squad who are league one standard the rest simply aren't good enough whoever manages them you can't bring out what isn't there.

How do you know what the managers instructions were? This lot didn't play for the last manager either. The players we have available aren't good enough its that simple.

Be honest, did any of you feel confident that we would hold on to that lead? I know I didn't. It has been the story all season as a group they have no bottle and no character.

The fact that he seems to favour massey over chislett is worrying

They are both useless at the back, as we all know, just wondered if DM had watched the northampton game back and realised that sang was at fault for both goals but my gut does say sang and plant as full backs.

sang smith yak plant across the back or is he putting massey back there with sang further up? We don't have many options I guess so all we can do is hope for the best.

I am aware that there are different types of striker and maybe at his best as you say he is capable of the things you mention but having watched almost every game this season I don't think he has been doing much of anything apart from maybe linking well with devine and arblaster when we were tip tapping it around and not creating any chances earlier in the season. He hasn't been effective in terms of scoring or creating. Being honest, and not exactly being a fan of loft, but I honestly believe loft would have scored more than 4 goals if we had got him in at the start instead of signing wilson. Willo is living on his reputation for me.

I got the impression we were tired. Uche wont be match fit yet he is a big lad who needs to be playing to stay fit so his recent injury problems haven't left him in the best place but he is still capable of tying defenders up and is strong enough to hold the ball up its up to our midfielders to get around him and pick up the bits.

I suspect the process was so convoluted it didn't leave any time for action. DF over complicated everything all style and no substance. By the time we have analysed all the stats and held meetings to identify who we want someone else has already signed them.